Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
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Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#2If someone decided to meticulously track everything I do. Follow me wherever I went. Put a GPS tracker on my car to see everywhere I visit. Peep inside my windows to see what websites I browse. Look over my shoulder at the grocery store to see what items I buy. I would consider that stalking and attempt to file a restraining order against that person.
Can I file a restraining order against Facebook? Or Google?
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#3If someone decided to meticulously track everything I do. Follow me wherever I went. Put a GPS tracker on my car to see everywhere I visit. Peep inside my windows to see what websites I browse. Look over my shoulder at the grocery store to see what items I buy. I would consider that stalking and attempt to file a restraining order against that person. Can I file a restraining order against Facebook? Or Google?
I guess no, because you agreed to terms and conditions that they can.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#4Wouldn't be surprised if they haven't even written the code to actually delete stuff.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#5If someone decided to meticulously track everything I do. Follow me wherever I went. Put a GPS tracker on my car to see everywhere I visit. Peep inside my windows to see what websites I browse. Look over my shoulder at the grocery store to see what items I buy. I would consider that stalking and attempt to file a restraining order against that person. Can I file a restraining order against Facebook? Or Google?
I guess no, because you agreed to terms and conditions that they can.
How about if one deleted the account with them 5 years before and they still follow you. I hope that is stalking.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#6Wouldn't be surprised if they haven't even written the code to actually delete stuff.
They will mouth some words about "our high availability data replication and backups are not designed to delete information instantly". Meanwhile, their metric ton of machine learning has already been loaded up with your behavioral traces and cannot be unlearned. It'll still predict your behavior well enough to target ads, even if the raw trace of what you did is gone.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess no, because you agreed to terms and conditions that they can.
How about if one deleted the account with them 5 years before and they still follow you. I hope that is stalking.
“When you delete content, it's no longer visible to other users; however, it may continue to exist elsewhere on our systems”
This is from FB’s terms and conditions, so I guess they can still keep the data.
If you agree to any other website’s terms and conditions saying “any third party can track you”, you have again given permission.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess no, because you agreed to terms and conditions that they can.
How about if one deleted the account with them 5 years before and they still follow you. I hope that is stalking.
I would agree. If you cease use and end the agreement then they should stop. If they continue then they should be liable.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#9The most surprising thing may be that people are surprised.
Re: Facebook's 'Clear History' Tool Doesn't Clear Shit (2020)
#10Wouldn't be surprised if they haven't even written the code to actually delete stuff.
They will mouth some words about "our high availability data replication and backups are not designed to delete information instantly". Meanwhile, their metric ton of machine learning has already been loaded up with your behavioral traces and cannot be unlearned. It'll still predict your behavior well enough to target ads, even if the raw trace of what you did is gone.
Wouldn't you say the "right to be forgotten" includes deleting the weights and biases that have been accumulated for a person?