NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
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Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#2> NHS Covid-19's users have long been able to scan a QR code when entering a shop, restaurant or other venue to log within the app the fact that they had visited.
Is there still evidence for this type of contact tracing? Was it ever even shown to work or reduce infection?
It seems now we should just be focusing on vaccinating everyone. Everything else is just noise at this point or political virtue signaling.
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#3> NHS Covid-19's users have long been able to scan a QR code when entering a shop, restaurant or other venue to log within the app the fact that they had visited. Is there still evidence for this type of contact tracing? Was it ever even shown to work or reduce infection? It seems now we should just be focusing on vaccinating everyone. Everything else is just noise at this point or political virtue signaling.
Yes - it has played a major role in Australia’s elimination strategy - the key difference has been the Australian government fines individuals (starts at $1600 spot fine) and businesses (up to $100k per non-compliant location) heavily for non-compliance - which hasn’t happened in any other country that I’m aware of...
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#4> NHS Covid-19's users have long been able to scan a QR code when entering a shop, restaurant or other venue to log within the app the fact that they had visited. Is there still evidence for this type of contact tracing? Was it ever even shown to work or reduce infection? It seems now we should just be focusing on vaccinating everyone. Everything else is just noise at this point or political virtue signaling.
> Is there still evidence for this type of contact tracing?
I'm not sure what you mean by "this type". What you've quoted is how contact tracing works. It does work, see for example https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03518-4
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#5I am happy about that. We go to stop this track and trace New World Order madness.
On a lighter note here is two rats arguing about wheather they should get the convid nonvax jib jab http://picc.io/p/tq2sFHU.png
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#6Never mind the usefulness of contact tracing. The issue here is that Google and Apple clearly said "Thou shalt not create logs of user locations". NHS (i.e. government) first said "OK", but then tried to sneak in user location logging as part of an update.
To which Google and Apple said "hard NO".
Which is the correct response to privacy-violating function creep.
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#7> NHS Covid-19's users have long been able to scan a QR code when entering a shop, restaurant or other venue to log within the app the fact that they had visited. Is there still evidence for this type of contact tracing? Was it ever even shown to work or reduce infection? It seems now we should just be focusing on vaccinating everyone. Everything else is just noise at this point or political virtue signaling.
Yes - it has played a major role in Australia’s elimination strategy - the key difference has been the Australian government fines individuals (starts at $1600 spot fine) and businesses (up to $100k per non-compliant location) heavily for non-compliance - which hasn’t happened in any other country that I’m aware of...
No, the key difference is that in Australia you would have 2 infected individuals and then you trace their whereabouts and involve the media, whereas in the UK there’s tens of thousands of infected individuals at any given time, most of which are undetected.
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#8I feel bad for the engineering team on this, for a myriad of reasons, but right now having their Apple review rejection played out in public.
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#9Never mind the usefulness of contact tracing. The issue here is that Google and Apple clearly said "Thou shalt not create logs of user locations". NHS (i.e. government) first said "OK", but then tried to sneak in user location logging as part of an update. To which Google and Apple said "hard NO". Which is the correct response to privacy-violating function creep.
I think there's a big difference between some tech company secretly logging user locations for their nefarious, privacy-violating money-making ends, and a national health system working to allow life to return to normal for millions of it's citizens whist trying to prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths in the midst of a worldwide pandemic.
I think Apple/Google should put a little bit more effort into this -- this sort of tech is going to be essential in getting countries re-opened safely, especially with questions around the efficacy of vaccines with some of these new COVID variants.
Anyone who's worried about the privacy can simply choose not to scan the QR codes (or not enable the feature / install the app).
Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules
#10Never mind the usefulness of contact tracing. The issue here is that Google and Apple clearly said "Thou shalt not create logs of user locations". NHS (i.e. government) first said "OK", but then tried to sneak in user location logging as part of an update. To which Google and Apple said "hard NO". Which is the correct response to privacy-violating function creep.
I think there's a big difference between some tech company secretly logging user locations for their nefarious, privacy-violating money-making ends, and a national health system working to allow life to return to normal for millions of it's citizens whist trying to prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths in the midst of a worldwide pandemic. I think Apple/Google should put a little bit more effort into this -- this s…
Is that actually a valid alternative for people who are worried about privacy? I thought that the centralized tracking was mandatory for pubs, shops, and other venues.