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Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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It was only when I was heavily medicated for depression and anxiety that I realised the physical symptoms of anxiety. Whenever I was expecting a negative outcome, or when I was surprised, my body would give me a jolt of pain along my vagus nerve. Literally any negative event would cause me pain, and it was this pain that my brain was seeking to avoid.

My current medication does not remove this pain altogether, though it diminishes the sensation significantly.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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I noticed as young adult that I didn’t really worry or consciously stress, but my body had somewhat predictable reactions to situations that I would realize, in hindsight, were highly stressful. Those physical reactions sucked, and as they got worse over time, it really concerned me. At some point I was encouraged to go to CBT, which I did, but honestly it made things worse. I became hyper aware of how anxious I was…

Buddhism. Psilocybin.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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I noticed as young adult that I didn’t really worry or consciously stress, but my body had somewhat predictable reactions to situations that I would realize, in hindsight, were highly stressful. Those physical reactions sucked, and as they got worse over time, it really concerned me. At some point I was encouraged to go to CBT, which I did, but honestly it made things worse. I became hyper aware of how anxious I was…

>I’ve concluded that the best advice is to learn not to worry about things Any tips with doing this? The thoughts I try to avoid end up in my dreams even if I try my best to distract myself during the day

I say try facing those issues. Your thinking mind is trying to process and make sense of those anxious issues. Example, if you were in an IED explosion in Iraq...it’s okay to think about it. It’s okay to process it. It’s okay to understand that it happened. But it’s also okay to understand that was a one-time thing and your body reacted the way it did to protect yourself from that one-time event. You may have lost some friends from that bad event, and you may have even been damaged from it. But that trauma is OVER. It’s time to heal through acceptance, talking about it verbally, and saying goodbye to those emotions.

This works well, as long as not you’re not still in Iraq at risk of getting hit with IEDs.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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I noticed as young adult that I didn’t really worry or consciously stress, but my body had somewhat predictable reactions to situations that I would realize, in hindsight, were highly stressful. Those physical reactions sucked, and as they got worse over time, it really concerned me. At some point I was encouraged to go to CBT, which I did, but honestly it made things worse. I became hyper aware of how anxious I was…

>I’ve concluded that the best advice is to learn not to worry about things Any tips with doing this? The thoughts I try to avoid end up in my dreams even if I try my best to distract myself during the day

That’s a good observation, and I think the insight is that you still think these thoughts during the day, but you avoid fixating / worrying.

Like, if you are worried about an upcoming job interview, it’s natural that you’ll think about the interview during the day. However, those thoughts will appear and disappear. You are not trying to distract yourself and avoid the thoughts, you are just learning to avoid fixation/obsession/suffering.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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This is a weird article. The headline doesn't really match it. Like it says the thinking brain is the last to know and the author suggests this is a physiological response. But all that's really saying is that anxiety isn't a conscious response. But that just means it's a subconscious response and not a physiological response somehow removed from the brain.

Also, what does "in your body, not in your mind" even mean? Let's face it, the distinction between your mind (or brain) and your body is a useful abstraction, nothing more. Nerve cells extend from your brain throughout your entire body. Where does your brain end and your "body" begin?

Life isn't software that lends itself to neat abstraction layers.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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Interesting article. I have occasional (every few years) periods of anxiety. Last time around I went through a course of CBT, some of which I found moderately helpful - don't try to suppress feelings of fear, just acknowledge it and move on - but I was certainly not cured.

Then my doctor suggested I try out the Alexander Technique. I wasn't convinced, but gave it a go. Something about it helped, and quite significantly. The logical part of me rebels against this, as AT is full of woo, but the effects were undeniable.

The practitioner I went to focused a lot on feeling the floor beneath you, the seat supporting you, and so on -- I don't know how typical that is for AT, but perhaps that was the part of it that was effective for me. It would certainly fit with what the article says.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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I noticed as young adult that I didn’t really worry or consciously stress, but my body had somewhat predictable reactions to situations that I would realize, in hindsight, were highly stressful. Those physical reactions sucked, and as they got worse over time, it really concerned me. At some point I was encouraged to go to CBT, which I did, but honestly it made things worse. I became hyper aware of how anxious I was…

Buddhism. Psilocybin.

Psilocybin is a powerful tool but it seems counter to the adage of "set and setting" to use it when beset by anxiety. As a prophylactic for it is of course a different story.

Re: Anxiety is in your body, not your mind

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Eh, a gross oversimplification. Feeling troubled by being anxious in the modern world is a "cerebral" issue. The guy who mistook an innocent animal as a tiger and freaked out because of it didn't feel bad for feeling anxious for no reason. We do. Because it interferes with our daily functioning / responsibilities in the modern world. Anxiety is also very frequently comorbid with other mental disorders. Especially OCD…

The argument makes more sense when you realise that Valium/Diazepam is basically a muscle relaxant. Edit: Source here, happy to hear from another domain expert refuting this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAOnSbDSaOw&list=PL848F2368C...

That's not really true. They act on GABA, which is the main inhibitory neurotransmitter throughout the central nervous system. So one of the effects is muscle relaxation, but that's only part of their effect.
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