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I made a mobile app for my significant other and she won't use it

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Post by oriolid »

oriolid wrote: post #187
jariel wrote: post #175

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"I pay Apple to uphold this bar by any means necessary. " I pay the electric company to have a store where only approved toasters and microwaves are sold so as to keep quality high! I pay my car company to ensure that only approved tires, windows, audio, windshield wiper fluid can be used. This logic is not working. Apple, and ABC corp, and any other companies can have app stores. If you want to shop at the 'absurdly…

> I pay the electric company to have a store where only approved toasters and microwaves are sold so as to keep quality high! > I pay my car company to ensure that only approved tires, windows, audio, windshield wiper fluid can be used. I don't know about the rest of the world, but where I live there is a tax-funded Safety and Chemicals Agency whose job is to keep dangerous and malicious physical products out of the…

Well, now that I think of it, CERT is kind of similar.

The problem is that CERT can only react to problems after they have happened. For physical products, you first have to meet CE standards to even get to the market. You can give the the label to your own product if you want to take the risk, but unlike software there is an official barrier to entry. I'm not sure if it's even possible to develop similar standards for software.

Re: I made a mobile app for my significant other and she won't use it

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Post by randomsearch »

speedcoder wrote: post #26
fake-name wrote: post #12

I feel like we need a add-on to the old quote 'Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.' 'Some people, when confronted with a interpersonal relationship problem, think "I know, I'll use software". Now they have two problems.' This is cute, but it's trying to solve a people problem with software.

My therapist told me once: "people are not programs."

we have all been seen here.

genuinely is difficult to switch off coding brain isn't it? I'm fairly sure I now consciously use deterministic algorithms for the majority of my life decisions.

Re: I made a mobile app for my significant other and she won't use it

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Post by lovelyviking »

ksec wrote: post #134
LegitShady wrote: post #113

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The upkeep of the Apple store ecosystem is easily found within its margins on taking money from developers plus billions in profits. This page is telling you how they're classifying it for tax reasons. There is no need to charge $100 or even $20 like Microsoft. This page is an excuse. There is no reason except greed and corporate accounting.

>and corporate accounting. Yes. That page align with Apple Accounting. Since 2017 Apple has been putting iOS cost and development, SDK as part of their Services Strategy expenses. In a sense Apple is now think you are buying iPhone just as Hardware ( with huge margins ), and you are paying for all the development of iOS, macOS through their Services Revenue coming from App Store and Google Search. In Steve Jobs days…

One can make a case that people learn to breath merely to prepare themselves to rent Apple services and not paying enough untill they do in Apple's POV.

But there is another POV. One that includes rights of a person to be a human being rather then income source for some company. One of those rights should be ability to install whatever software you choose on your own computer without any artificial restrictions.

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Post by nanis »

realusername wrote: post #185
f6v wrote: post #159

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> I wish you could pay devs instead of Apple to held this bar high. Let’s be honest, the majority of the apps charge in-app for every fart. At the dawn of the app stores you could find a ton of free apps and games from hobbyists, but now it’s all about squeezing money. And the guy in the article didn’t have to publish the app in the first place, could have uploaded the app to the phone directly through the dev tools.

What did you expect? The process to get an app on the store is complicated, time consuming and you even need to pay for it. Hobbyists are just publishing web apps instead nowadays and couldn't be bothered to publish on the app store. It's simpler, more accessible and you're guaranteed it will work. Only companies or people who don't really have any other choice do that.

> What did you expect?

Many years ago, I got excited when I got a Nokia phone which supported Java ME. Finally, here was my chance to put some useful stuff on _MY_ phone I thought. Then I learned what I needed to get a single copy of something on a single phone (after signing up for the dev program). I don't remember the details, but, clearly, the point was you needed to be a part of an international conglomerate if you wanted to be able to ship awful clones of 80s 8-bit games.

The messed up nightmare "mobile computing" was going to devolve into became apparent to me then. Nothing one can do about it. You either use the stuff everyone else is using or your are "out". Still, I had expected to be able to attach a cable and copy a blob from _MY_ computer to _MY_ phone.

I know this is about app stores. Well, in this case, I expect to be able to put a blob somewhere and point people to it for them to install if they so choose.

And, no, web pages that try to act like apps don't really count.

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Post by literallycancer »

kortilla wrote: post #177
croh wrote: post #151

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> As a user, I'm very happy the stores impose stringent rules. I have seen this view lot from apple users. And I really feel sad that no body gives the enough credit to dev community because of whom you're getting these apps in first place, not from Apple directly (And I am sure, if they do, heck they will charge you like hell). Please understand it is mutual platform for apple/google, devs and consumers. Now days, A…

People give plenty of credit to devs. Apps that meet the quality bar to stay in the App Store make way more from iOS users than Android. There are thousands and thousands of apps to sift through. It’s good that iOS helps filter out the shit where devs can’t be bothered to do basic user friendly things like providing screenshots, etc.

Do they make more from iOS users than from the subset of Android users that have phones priced similarly to iPhone?

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Post by dombili »

great_reversal wrote: post #13

> Last weekend, my partner had her friends stay with us over the weekend. We needed to find a movie to watch. This was my chance! I was so excited! > "Let's use WeWatch!" > "No, it would take too long. Let's just watch Space Jam." I watch a lot of movies and honestly the swipe-approach would take way too long. My preferred way is to just scroll through a long list of movies (alphabetically) and pick one I want to wat…

I used to scroll through the streaming services and my Plex library to pick something to watch, but I ended up creating a Shortcut on iOS in an attempt to take myself out of the decision process. The manual process was not only not random, but there was still a lot of indecisiveness on my part that would make me waste time. So now I have a plaintext file filled with movie titles available to me, and whenever I want to watch something, I tell Siri to recommend me a movie, and the Shortcut app just picks a random title.

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Post by hoophoop »

oriolid wrote: post #213
onikolas7 wrote: post #195

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Sure there is, its called a package repository. See Debian or Arch for some good examples.

They're specific to Linux distribution families, so they don't really apply to those who are running Android or iOS. Also, getting your app into repository isn't really easier than getting it into app store (see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#How_do_I_get_a_spon... ) and good luck if you're trying to make money from the app.

> getting your app into repository isn't really easier than getting it into app store ... and good luck if you're trying to make money from the app.

Good. That's why the quality is so high.

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Post by sokoloff »

literallycancer wrote: post #245
kortilla wrote: post #177

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People give plenty of credit to devs. Apps that meet the quality bar to stay in the App Store make way more from iOS users than Android. There are thousands and thousands of apps to sift through. It’s good that iOS helps filter out the shit where devs can’t be bothered to do basic user friendly things like providing screenshots, etc.

Do they make more from iOS users than from the subset of Android users that have phones priced similarly to iPhone?

Since they make more from iOS users overall, they definitely make more than from a small subset of Android users.

My point is app developers rightly care about their total income, not about the per-capita income from a tiny slice of the userbase.

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Post by DonHopkins »

speedcoder wrote: post #26
fake-name wrote: post #12

I feel like we need a add-on to the old quote 'Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.' 'Some people, when confronted with a interpersonal relationship problem, think "I know, I'll use software". Now they have two problems.' This is cute, but it's trying to solve a people problem with software.

My therapist told me once: "people are not programs."

Dr. Smile would disagree.

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=575

>And there in the next room by the sofa sat a familiar suitcase, that of his psychiatrist Dr. Smile.

>Barefoot, he padded into the living room, and seated himself by the suitcase; he opened it, clicked switches, and turned on Dr. Smile. Meters began to register and the mechanism hummed. "Where am I?" Barney asked it. "And how far am I from New York?" That was the main point...

>The mechanism which was the portable extension of Dr. Smile, connected by micro-relay to the computer itself in the basement level of Barney's own conapt building in New York, the Renown 33, tinnily declared, "Ah, Mr. Bayerson." "Mayerson," Barney corrected, smoothing his hair with fingers that shook.

Are you afraid that you're so sane that you'll be shipped off to Mars? There's an app for that!

https://www.curledup.com/fourdick.htm

>The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch leaves its readers questioning their own sense of what constitutes “reality”. The novel begins by introducing one of the major characters, Barney Mayerson, a precog who works for Bulero and is trying to evade the draft (joining the colonists on Mars) through the use of Dr. Smile, a computerized psychiatrist he carries in his briefcase. The purpose of the psychiatrist is not, unlike the human version, to make one well, but to make one sick - sick enough for the short term, anyway, to evade being sent to Mars.

>The precog Roni Fugate spends the night with Barney, both knowing by their precognitive talents that they’d hit it off at some point in the future, so why wait until later for the inevitable? In the morning, Roni asks Barney if Dr. Smile has helped much yet, if he has made Barney “sick enough.” Barney doesn’t directly answer her, but asks the same question of Dr. Smile. He answers: “Unfortunately you’re still viable, Mr. Mayerson; you can handle ten Freuds of stress. Sorry. But we still have several days; we’ve just begun.”

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