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Re: Setting up Starlink

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zorpner wrote: post #253
ecshafer wrote: post #230

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As you specify people from Seattle, and these people went out of their way to point out that the people are religious, republicans who like guns, I have a feeling they aren't particularly open minded or tolerant people. Religious or secular, blue team or red team, basic politics shouldn't color your ability to get along with people. Fundamentally people are pretty similar, and American culture is quite homogeneous.

I would encourage you to listen to, and believe, the very real experiences of people of color, same-sex couples, and transgender or nonbinary people who have spent time in locations like Eastern Idaho.

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Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by ggm »

Not here to disrespect anyone using it or seeking it, just commenting that with many cities worldwide mid way through fiber upgrades I worry this will be used to deprecate in ground investment in optical.

I know a lot of people can legit say "fiber is never coming to me" but the NBN debacle in Australia comes to mind as a politicised capital investment failure (they dropped FTTP for a mixture of copper, optical, wifi GEO sat and coax depending. I got fiber. It's great.)

The UK is another place where national broadband roll-out could freeze on this if the market bifurcated. Or NL with KPN not yet complete on a national fiber deployment.

High Bandwidth and 30ms RTT is awesome. This is stellar tech (sorry)

Lots of US metro areas trapped behind the consequences of the ma bell breakups, RBOC, cable TV and local laws forbidding Google fiber deals. Its the politics which ruined optical not cost really. Starlink shouldn't be such a rational choice for a metro area and it says a lot about capital investment that it is.

Pacific Islands, rural and remote, city fringes with no viable alternatives, this is mega cool. Cities with infrastructure, It's a signal of some major failure this is going to be so popular.

NZ ufb crown holdings, the signal got strong if you were too far away from the big towns it was years off. I can relate to any kiwi wanting this tech. It would suck to be seeing people up the road getting ufb and being off the planning horizon.

Same with my oz mates who aren't on NBN fiber. If you're on the optus GEO sat stuff, this is going to rock.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by rubatuga »

tyingq wrote: post #273
stefan_ wrote: post #267

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Wheres the IPv4 address from? Because if it's AWS, that's gonna be rather useless.

The whois for the ip's in the screenshot say they are reassigned from OVH, and geolocate to Quebec.

That's the prototype version.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by jrnichols »

Scoundreller wrote: post #136
mdasen wrote: post #97

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Starlink has said that they're planning on offering a roaming use-case, but they aren't there yet ( https://www.slashgear.com/spacex-starlink-cell-location-limi... ). Part of the issue is that Starlink cells are going to be very limited in capacity for the foreseeable future: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/09/analyst-probes... . Cowen suggests that Starlink "should eventually be able to serve 485,000 simu…

> Imagine people going to Burning Man with lots of Starlinks or bringing their Starlink when they go on vacation. I deeply hope people aren’t going to those to download OS updates and watch Netflix. Might have some crazies that feel the need to livestream the whole thing, but should be okay if only a handful at a time.

> Imagine people going to Burning Man with lots of Starlinks or bringing their Starlink when they go on vacation.

That is exactly why I would be interested in it. :) Not just Burning Man, but other events. We do special event medical and having some reliable roving internet access like Starlink would be absolutely magical for us.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by rubatuga »

hattmall wrote: post #280
rubatuga wrote: post #269

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We lease IPv4 /24 and IPv6 /48 blocks from a reputable IP address broker, check it against spam blacklists, and finally announce the clean IP addresses at a datacenter of our choice. We are not tied down to any hosting company. We tested a datacenter failover scenario and switched the BGP route from Chicago to Toronto, while a YouTube video was playing, and it didn't even stutter!

Do streaming services work? Anyway to make the IP appear residential?

Netflix works with just the "global" range. Their business vs. residential classification accuracy is probably near perfect.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by mod »

throwawayboise wrote: post #300
gkop wrote: post #188

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Replying to your reply, I don’t buy it. Your experience now on Starlink is analogous to being the first WISP subscriber on a newly deployed AP. Time will tell anyway. (And I will still be a grateful Starlink customer at my off-grid cabin, even with the throttling and caps. Starlink is a game changer!)

If your cabin is off-grid, why do you want to be online? Doesn't that sort of defeat the point?

Sometimes there's not an option to be on the grid.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by bradknowles »

freedomben wrote: post #73

I'm using Starlink right now. AMA. I'm in East Idaho. Currently my dish angles itself to the north. It rarely moves itself north/south, and slightly moves east/west throughout the day. I've read that right now it locks onto a single satellite, although they're adding multi-satellite support later. My speeds are inconsistent, and interestingly they start slow (around 60 Mbps) but after a couple seconds they'll get to…

So, how do you use these devices in an SD-WAN active/active configuration? What is your unified VPN solution that lets you use both upstream channels simultaneously?

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by brandon272 »

ggm wrote: post #302

Not here to disrespect anyone using it or seeking it, just commenting that with many cities worldwide mid way through fiber upgrades I worry this will be used to deprecate in ground investment in optical. I know a lot of people can legit say "fiber is never coming to me" but the NBN debacle in Australia comes to mind as a politicised capital investment failure (they dropped FTTP for a mixture of copper, optical, wifi…

It’s always been my understanding that Starlink will never be able to offer anything close to what it achieves for rural speeds in a areas where they’d have many densely packed customers (I.e. cities)

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by jsjohnst »

stingraycharles wrote: post #248
rubatuga wrote: post #239

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We are a managed service meaning you can sign up, download the WireGuard configuration, and forget about it. For a few extra dollars, you get reliability (we use BGP so we can failover to different datacenters), and clean IP addresses that aren't associated with spam or other cloud providers.

FWIW and since this is HN, I don’t think it’s pricey at all, it seems to very much match what I would expect a service like this to cost. I wonder if I somehow can set up my Mikrotik routers to tunnel through you and transparently provide IPv6 for my whole LAN, that would be swell.

If you just want public IPv6 for your LAN, you could get address space for free from TunnelBroker.net and the setup for your router is well documented.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Post by itbeho »

throwawayboise wrote: post #300
gkop wrote: post #188

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Replying to your reply, I don’t buy it. Your experience now on Starlink is analogous to being the first WISP subscriber on a newly deployed AP. Time will tell anyway. (And I will still be a grateful Starlink customer at my off-grid cabin, even with the throttling and caps. Starlink is a game changer!)

If your cabin is off-grid, why do you want to be online? Doesn't that sort of defeat the point?

Not the person you replied to, but off-grid doesn't mean no power. I have an off-grid cabin with enough solar capacity to run my laptop, as well as quite a few other things. I'm looking forward to getting Starlink there myself. It's a fantastic, quiet place to work with no opportunity for interruptions.
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