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Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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Is there any evidence behind the idea that FLoC is more privacy-preserving than third-party cookies? Intuitively that is not obvious to me at all, especially given there are so many other fingerprinting techniques it could be combined with.

You can't use FLoC ID for fingerprinting, it changes continuously.

Interesting, didn't know that. In that case then how does it identify a cohort in a useful manner? Surely websites will need to temporally tie together the values to be able to target ads?

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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post #7

FLoC stands for Federated Learning of Cohorts which aims to target advertising better without it directly relying on singularly personal information. https://web.dev/floc/ FLoC enables ad selection without sharing the browsing behaviour of individual users. FLoC provides a privacy-preserving mechanism for interest-based ad selection. As a user moves around the web, their browser uses the FLoC algorithm to work out it…

If I must have ads, I'd prefer not be tracked by hundreds of untrustworthy companies, and I'd also prefer not see irrelevant ads... This therefore seems like the best bad option...

You don't have to have ads at all. The best option is an adblocker, and a non-Chrome-based browser.

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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Good to see Brave sticking to their privacy guns. FLoC is a brazen attempt for Big Ad (aka. Google and its ilk) to keep their spying-on-users gravy train going, now that GDPR and similar laws are making their old methods illegal (without consent).

No one wants to consent to being spied on, so FLoC is circumnavigating the GDPR consent requirements, letting them spy on all Chrome-users without consent.

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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The recursive irony here is that Alphabet implemented FLoC to put a moat around tracking adtech, and Brave consumes Chromium for its own means of generating revenue from vending a browser (BAT), so of course there’s no reason to propagate FLoC.

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FLoC is a way to make Google's ad network's targeting worth comparatively more than other ad networks'. Brave is an other ad network.

Can you expand on how Brave is an ad network?

https://brave.com/brave-ads/

Company Overview & Core Offering

Brave is the first global digital ad platform built for privacy, offering advertisers the opportunity to participate in a premium, brand safe, and opt-in ad ecosystem, designed for a future without 3rd party cookies.

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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post #7

FLoC stands for Federated Learning of Cohorts which aims to target advertising better without it directly relying on singularly personal information. https://web.dev/floc/ FLoC enables ad selection without sharing the browsing behaviour of individual users. FLoC provides a privacy-preserving mechanism for interest-based ad selection. As a user moves around the web, their browser uses the FLoC algorithm to work out it…

So, FLoC is a mechanism for facilitating your being targeted by commercial propaganda, but not as accurate/personalized as other mechanisms by Google, Amazon and others. Am I getting it right? But - if the regular, more accurate/personalized, mechanisms work in Chromium - why use the less-accurate ones?

1. The more accurate ones require a cookie banner.

2. The more accurate ones are going away.

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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post #7

FLoC stands for Federated Learning of Cohorts which aims to target advertising better without it directly relying on singularly personal information. https://web.dev/floc/ FLoC enables ad selection without sharing the browsing behaviour of individual users. FLoC provides a privacy-preserving mechanism for interest-based ad selection. As a user moves around the web, their browser uses the FLoC algorithm to work out it…

So, FLoC is a mechanism for facilitating your being targeted by commercial propaganda, but not as accurate/personalized as other mechanisms by Google, Amazon and others. Am I getting it right? But - if the regular, more accurate/personalized, mechanisms work in Chromium - why use the less-accurate ones?

This post might give some answers [1]. FL is a machine-learning framework where models can be trained while keeping users' data on their device rather than sending it to a server.

[1] https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/04/federated-learning-collabo...

Re: Brave disables Chromium FLoC features

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post #7

FLoC stands for Federated Learning of Cohorts which aims to target advertising better without it directly relying on singularly personal information. https://web.dev/floc/ FLoC enables ad selection without sharing the browsing behaviour of individual users. FLoC provides a privacy-preserving mechanism for interest-based ad selection. As a user moves around the web, their browser uses the FLoC algorithm to work out it…

aka lipstick on a pig. Google could easily kill brave by adopting its ads model.
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