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Setting up Starlink

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Re: Setting up Starlink

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> they only guarantee that you'll be able to use the $500 dish (plus $50 shipping) for 12 months I would guess that if they disconnect your dish from the network, they'll give you a new one for free. I know that isn't what their terms and conditions state, but it would be bad business to do anything else. They'll hope that most users choose to upgrade first (for more speed or other features).

$500 is pretty much free for this equipment. Production price is currently around $3000 according to SpaceX president Gwyneth Shotwell [0]. [0]: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1379457265435078665

That tweet says 33% of the manufacturing cost isn't nearly free, in my opinion, but it is definitely a loss leader product.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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I have never heard of adding 'ies' onto the end of numbers to mean 'ms'. I'm (probably) not alone, fyi! What industry is that lexicon from?

That just means 30-39. Probably would be clearer if written 30's. The ms is implied, due to the context.

That would be a greengrocer's apostrophe.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Probably because a plus code is harder for someone to screw up. Find the place on Google Maps, copy the plus code. Rather than entering lat/lon coords... except did you get the sign right, or maybe you flipped lat/lon, or got a significant digit out.

I prefer an unambiguous and open way of communicating locations on the surface of the Earth, to a proprietary service from a company with a long history of pulling the plug on products.

"Plus codes" are also known as "open location codes", and they are open source, not proprietary, nor do they rely on a central service.

You appear to be conflating other proprietary systems with this open one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Location_Code

https://github.com/google/open-location-code

Re: Setting up Starlink

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Probably because a plus code is harder for someone to screw up. Find the place on Google Maps, copy the plus code. Rather than entering lat/lon coords... except did you get the sign right, or maybe you flipped lat/lon, or got a significant digit out.

> Probably because a plus code is harder for someone to screw up Probably because a plus code is harder for someone to use with non-Google services and open source map tools

It's open source... anyone can encode and decode plus codes: https://github.com/google/open-location-code

Re: Setting up Starlink

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I'm using Starlink right now. AMA. I'm in East Idaho. Currently my dish angles itself to the north. It rarely moves itself north/south, and slightly moves east/west throughout the day. I've read that right now it locks onto a single satellite, although they're adding multi-satellite support later. My speeds are inconsistent, and interestingly they start slow (around 60 Mbps) but after a couple seconds they'll get to…

Have you been using ssh at all? How's that experience? That's my main use case. How about video/audio calls? does Wi-Fi calling work well?

Not OP but I've setup a continuous reverse SSH from a farm in the South to a Comcast residential service in the Bay area.

SSH works but there's enough latency and other general network variation that makes me think it's not quite good enough an experience to spend a day remotely editting files.

For anything not requiring really low-latency, Starlink absolutely shines. Watching the local news from my childhood farm on the other side of the country via satellite internet feels like the future.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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I'm using Starlink right now. AMA. I'm in East Idaho. Currently my dish angles itself to the north. It rarely moves itself north/south, and slightly moves east/west throughout the day. I've read that right now it locks onto a single satellite, although they're adding multi-satellite support later. My speeds are inconsistent, and interestingly they start slow (around 60 Mbps) but after a couple seconds they'll get to…

Hows the gimble, I read its auto stabilizing is that true? And how well built is the dish, do you think it can handle long periods of constant wind exposure of 15+ knots I've been contemplating putting one on my boat for use while at anchor. There is constant movement but its horrible

The dish basically locks into an orientation after it links up with the satellites, so it's not really a "gimbal" in that it's not constantly moving around.

The dish is heavy and feels tough; I'd be more worried about your mount than the dish itself with regard to wind; we're having 40 mph gusts today in St. Louis and dishy's working fine.

I'm more worried about hail, though... hopefully we can avoid the golf ball variety this spring.

Re: Setting up Starlink

#237

I'm using Starlink right now. AMA. I'm in East Idaho. Currently my dish angles itself to the north. It rarely moves itself north/south, and slightly moves east/west throughout the day. I've read that right now it locks onto a single satellite, although they're adding multi-satellite support later. My speeds are inconsistent, and interestingly they start slow (around 60 Mbps) but after a couple seconds they'll get to…

We actually launched a service that provides you with a public IPv4 address and a /56 IPv6 block over WireGuard. It bypasses CGNAT and provides unblocked ports, including port 25. The cheapest plan starts at $8/month. Here's a link! https://hoppy.network

Looks pricey, whats the advantage of that vs setting up wireguard on your own vps for less money?

Re: Setting up Starlink

#238

I'm using Starlink right now. AMA. I'm in East Idaho. Currently my dish angles itself to the north. It rarely moves itself north/south, and slightly moves east/west throughout the day. I've read that right now it locks onto a single satellite, although they're adding multi-satellite support later. My speeds are inconsistent, and interestingly they start slow (around 60 Mbps) but after a couple seconds they'll get to…

This is OT but can you share a little bit more about what it's like living in East Idaho? I grew up in Boise and now live in Chicago but with the way things have been going lately I've been considering moving back, and there's a real appeal to living in a smaller town in the eastern part of the state (my dad was from Twin Falls). Internet access is always a bit of a concern though, which maybe Starlink ameliorates? S…

My family and I spend a lot of time in the northern Idaho handle near Coeur d'Alene. We love it up here. My wife is Asian (matters to the story), we are liberals, but the folks are generally* terrific and kind. I star “generally” because I would say that the average person is much, much nicer than the folks we meet on the west coast, but the not so great people are much more open with racist, hateful, and frankly scary confrontations. We are invited into peoples homes, have made fast friends with many locals, love the pure beauty of the place, but the lows are much lower when they happen.

Re: Setting up Starlink

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We actually launched a service that provides you with a public IPv4 address and a /56 IPv6 block over WireGuard. It bypasses CGNAT and provides unblocked ports, including port 25. The cheapest plan starts at $8/month. Here's a link! https://hoppy.network

Looks pricey, whats the advantage of that vs setting up wireguard on your own vps for less money?

We are a managed service meaning you can sign up, download the WireGuard configuration, and forget about it. For a few extra dollars, you get reliability (we use BGP so we can failover to different datacenters), and clean IP addresses that aren't associated with spam or other cloud providers.

Re: Setting up Starlink

#240

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> they only guarantee that you'll be able to use the $500 dish (plus $50 shipping) for 12 months I would guess that if they disconnect your dish from the network, they'll give you a new one for free. I know that isn't what their terms and conditions state, but it would be bad business to do anything else. They'll hope that most users choose to upgrade first (for more speed or other features).

$500 is pretty much free for this equipment. Production price is currently around $3000 according to SpaceX president Gwyneth Shotwell [0]. [0]: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1379457265435078665

Since the antenna can't be used for anything other than receiving starlink service, it isn't really logical not to consider the cost as "$500 + $100/month forever"
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