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A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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The FBI specializes in this kind of operation, providing encouragement, support, and money to unhappy young men who would most likely never get around to actually doing anything were it not for the FBI's involvement, always in such a way that it somehow doesn't quite legally qualify as entrapment, despite looking like entrapment to any normal person. The FBI are corrupt enforcers for the left now. A dozen agents will be dispatched instantly if there's a chance to bolster the myth that the US is super racist, like when a garage door pull fell down, but not a single one will be sent to question the person thought by tens of millions of Americans to have pulled illegitimate ballots out from under a table in the middle of the night during the election.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet? Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something…

It wouldn't be post about far-right extremist attacks without someone in the comments trying to "whataboutism" it about leftists.

Because leftist used revolutionary terror to achieve their goals as well.

It's not whataboutism if they have a history of doing it.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet? Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something…

It wouldn't be post about far-right extremist attacks without someone in the comments trying to "whataboutism" it about leftists.

Or someone else making snarky comments like this in response. Let's not pretend that the problem of people being brainwashed into extreme beliefs and even acting on them inside the various echo chambers of the internet is limited to any particular demographic. It's one of the elephants in this increasingly digital room of ours that achingly needs addressing.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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I sincerely hope this does not come across as provocative in the worst possible way, but what exactly defines this guy as Far-Right? I understand we're not given full context in this short article and that label is likely all too accurate, but it feels out of place as the rest of the writeup goes on to just describe him as a run-of-the-mill nutcase obsessed with the "big tech" boogeyman.

My guess is he was provoked by Amazon taking Parler off their servers.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet? Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something…

That's the problem with crazy people, they don't realize their ideas are out of bounds.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet? Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something…

I don't think it would be a hugely wrong to say both ends of the spectrum think they're "outside" of the normal world. Their world has different rules and morals and thus they would be executing along those.

In their world, you're the one who needs to ask if you're crazy agreeing living your life while agreeing to conditions X,Y, and Z.

[amrchair psychology disclosure]

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be post about far-right extremist attacks without someone in the comments trying to "whataboutism" it about leftists.

Because leftist used revolutionary terror to achieve their goals as well. It's not whataboutism if they have a history of doing it.

Whataboutism doesnt mean that what was brought up is not true, just that it distracts from the original criticism. The classic example is “Soviet Union has problems? Well, look how the US is treating black people.”

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Get ready for more of this.

If Amazon hadn’t acquiesced to the left wing (eg. by taking down Parker) there would have been an equal likelihood that a left wing extremist would plot an attack.

Even more so, if a would-be terrorist can see data centers as virtually zero-casualty targets.

Not to mention state actors who will have an easier time „nudging“ domestic actors into „standing up for what’s right“ due to the low moral barrier.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be post about far-right extremist attacks without someone in the comments trying to "whataboutism" it about leftists.

Or someone else making snarky comments like this in response. Let's not pretend that the problem of people being brainwashed into extreme beliefs and even acting on them inside the various echo chambers of the internet is limited to any particular demographic. It's one of the elephants in this increasingly digital room of ours that achingly needs addressing.

We need to be clear that domestic terrorism in the US is evenly split between pseudo-Islamic extremism and the far right. Terrorist action from the left currently counts for a tiny amount of this violence.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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I sincerely hope this does not come across as provocative in the worst possible way, but what exactly defines this guy as Far-Right? I understand we're not given full context in this short article and that label is likely all too accurate, but it feels out of place as the rest of the writeup goes on to just describe him as a run-of-the-mill nutcase obsessed with the "big tech" boogeyman.

It's sad you feel as if you have to apologize preemptively for asking a question.

It is a fair enough question, as there is a certain amount of bilateral support for bombing data centers. There are conceivable justifications for it from many points on the political spectrum.

That said, he talks like a right winger, not like a radical environmentalist or a militant communist.

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