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A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How was he part of the "insurrection" if he did nothing illegal?

For the same reason a getaway driver is part of a bank robbery despite "not doing anything illegal."

Aiding and abetting of a getaway driver is more involved than a bystander watching a tour group jump the velvet rope.

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the same reason a getaway driver is part of a bank robbery despite "not doing anything illegal."

Aiding and abetting of a getaway driver is more involved than a bystander watching a tour group jump the velvet rope.

Perhaps, but calling them a tour group is specious. Their social media posts, testimony and beating of a police officer to death clearly indicates otherwise.

And while the suspect didn't admit to anything incriminating while in Washington, according to the article, it seems unlikely that someone who posts about their mass destruction plans on a right-wing militia forum would just coincidentally have been there sightseeing while an insurrection (or, charitably, an attempt at one) was underway.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aiding and abetting of a getaway driver is more involved than a bystander watching a tour group jump the velvet rope.

Perhaps, but calling them a tour group is specious. Their social media posts, testimony and beating of a police officer to death clearly indicates otherwise. And while the suspect didn't admit to anything incriminating while in Washington, according to the article, it seems unlikely that someone who posts about their mass destruction plans on a right-wing militia forum would just coincidentally have been there sights…

They stole electronics, but the coroner's decision* is still out on the cop.

* https://twitter.com/AugensteinWTOP/status/137986673166615347...

Re: A far-right extremist allegedly plotted to blow up Amazon data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How was he part of the "insurrection" if he did nothing illegal?

It's possible the insurrection claims were just crap that he made up. It seems likely the FBI would have been dealing with him back in January, if he were part of the group trying to overthrow the election.

The FBI was focused on finding those who had achieved notoriety - e.g. the dude with the confederate flag, the guys with zip-ties, or those who vandalized / looted the building.

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Not to turn a blind eye to what would have been a tragic loss of life, but how resistant is Amazon to such an attack, data-wise? How much collateral economic damage can you do by taking down an AWS data center?

Seems like a pretty tall order for one bomber to be able to do any significant damage to a facility that size.

My understanding is that these facilities run on a fairly skeleton crew, especially at night, with staff generally spending most of their time in offices, rather than on the data-center floor. May have intended to carry out his plan with no loss of life.

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet?

Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something that goes haywire in the mind to think that "this is so right that I am justified in destroying property, people to get it done". Maybe when you get to that state (regardless of the particular issue at hand), you should ask as a final check "am I absolutely sure I'm not crazy"? (lol)

Also makes you wonder if, for all the convictions you have about some issue, maybe you would equally be as passionate on the other side of it if you had simply been raised by different parents, been fed different points of view, etc. Maybe our belief that we are morally right is not as great a motivator of action as we think it should be?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How was he part of the "insurrection" if he did nothing illegal?

For the same reason a getaway driver is part of a bank robbery despite "not doing anything illegal."

The whole reason a getaway driver exists is to help people conduct a bank robbery, whereas just protesting outside Congress is not only legal but constitutionally protected. By that logic, the elected Democrat officials who continued to attend BLM "protests" night after night knowing that every night, people at those specific "protests" were violently attacking cops using them as cover were much more criminal - yet the mainstream American press never applied this logic to them because the whole thing is just partisan bullshit.

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I sincerely hope this does not come across as provocative in the worst possible way, but what exactly defines this guy as Far-Right? I understand we're not given full context in this short article and that label is likely all too accurate, but it feels out of place as the rest of the writeup goes on to just describe him as a run-of-the-mill nutcase obsessed with the "big tech" boogeyman.

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet? Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something…

It wouldn't be post about far-right extremist attacks without someone in the comments trying to "whataboutism" it about leftists.

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I wonder, does such a person share a lot of characteristics of his mental state with someone who on the other side of the political spectrum, breaks into factory chicken farms to free birds, or who torches an entire dealership of SUVs to save the planet? Is there not something a little bit fascinating in realizing that regardless of the particular political belief driving them to do something, there must be something…

“I’m not a dumbass suicide bomber"

is exactly what a dumbass suicide bomber would say...

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