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The rice of the sea: how a tiny grain could change the way humanity eats

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Article: "its tremendous potential: gluten-free, high in omega-6 and -9 fatty acids, and contains 50% more protein than rice per grain"

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2019/11/omega-6-overl... "The abundance of omega-6 fatty acids in modern diets, combined with an insufficient amount of omega-3 fats, plays a major role in age-related disorders including cardiovascular disease, obesity, dementia, and metabolic syndrome."

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I'm always a bit conflicted about the idea of carbon capture. The whole idea seems predicated on the notion that the carbon is going to be sequestered forever and ignores organic matter getting broken down into methane which is much worse than the captured carbon dioxide. It really feels like the approach is creating climate debt for the future rather than coming up with a long term solution. I have to wonder if human kind will need to find some way to convert CO2 to pure carbon for storage as a climate control measure.

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I thought most people already have too much Omega 6 in their diet? This article makes it seem like that is a benefit.

You could balance it out with the rest of ingredients guess, it’s not like they suggest to eat only sea grain

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Nutritional facts are misrepresented by the Guardian in this article and in the primary source of the research: https://www.cerealmarino.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/APON...

50% more protein “per grain” is a comparison I’ve heard here first. The intro of the paper claims “13% protein” but its comparison table states “10.1% protein”. In comparison, regular wheat has around 12.6% protein, while Einkorn wheat contains 19.3% protein. [1]

“In addition to essential fatty acids, Omegas 6 and 9, and amino acids not found in other common grains and minerals, it also has significant levels of glucose, making it a superfood with exceptional qualities for a healthy diet.”

* First, we need much more omega-3 and drastically less omega-6, while we get plenty of omega-9, which is not essential as our bodies can synthesize omega-9. [2] [3]

* Glucose and other sugars are one of the handful things that there’s a consensus it’s bad for our health.

* All plant foods contain all 20 amino-acids, essential and non-essential. [4] Naturally, rice does not lack an amino-acid in their comparison table.

[1] research: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32246458

[1] summary: https://youtu.be/6fciEfyYyK4

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid

[3] https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/omega-3-6-9-overview

[4] https://dci.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Food-and... (page 25)

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OTOH, this could be an environmental friendly grain if cultivated in open seas on floating platforms instead of disrupting highly vulnerable shallow waters.

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post #13

I'm always a bit conflicted about the idea of carbon capture. The whole idea seems predicated on the notion that the carbon is going to be sequestered forever and ignores organic matter getting broken down into methane which is much worse than the captured carbon dioxide. It really feels like the approach is creating climate debt for the future rather than coming up with a long term solution. I have to wonder if huma…

I assume that carbon capture implies actually capturing carbon. The sea grass actually gets covered by sand and mud in an anaerobic environment, which does sequester carbon for a long time. Unlike forests, which are exposed to the air and do sequester some carbon but also release a bunch back to the environment.

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Nutritional facts are misrepresented by the Guardian in this article and in the primary source of the research: https://www.cerealmarino.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/APON... 50% more protein “per grain” is a comparison I’ve heard here first. The intro of the paper claims “13% protein” but its comparison table states “10.1% protein”. In comparison, regular wheat has around 12.6% protein, while Einkorn wheat contains…

> * Glucose and other sugars are one of the handful things that there’s a consensus it’s bad for our health.

Is that really the case? There is a difference between something being inherently unhealthy vs excessive in our current diet. We like sugars because our bodies need readily accessible energy. The issue is that today it is to easy and cheap to produce and consume and we don't control ourselves.

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Nutritional facts are misrepresented by the Guardian in this article and in the primary source of the research: https://www.cerealmarino.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/APON... 50% more protein “per grain” is a comparison I’ve heard here first. The intro of the paper claims “13% protein” but its comparison table states “10.1% protein”. In comparison, regular wheat has around 12.6% protein, while Einkorn wheat contains…

>All plant foods contain all 20 amino-acids, essential and non-essential

I'm not sure about this point, as I understand it most plant sources consist of incomplete proteins, and in fact you have to consume appropriate combinations to avoid protein deficiency, e.g. eating rice or beans alone results in malnutrition, but together in proper proportion they can sustain a human indefinitely.

Here's a random source http://www.myfit.ca/nutrition/incomplete_proteins_combinatio...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh. White rice must be the blandest food in human history.

Try basmati rice. It has a light bit of nutty flavour. You will never eat Uncle Ben again.

— and jasmin rice.
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