Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
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Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
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Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#2This is a really odd article. Snopes said "most false" and they seem to take issue with this. Snopes assessment seems right on and completely accurate with not much bias.
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#3It's very hard to follow this article, but I'm mostly upset that it's apparently legal to directly promise voters money if they vote for you. Talk about moral hazard.
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#4The campaigning was based on the existing debate of whether the stimulus check should be $600 or $2000. Biden and the Democrats were pushing for $2000.
There was never a camp that was pushing for BOTH a $600 check and a $2000 check.
They did not secure power in the White House and Senate in time to change the $600 check to a $2000 check. So instead they sent an additional $1400 check.
Would it have been ideal from their perspective to have gotten things done in time so that people only got one check? Sure. Do I view their inability to do so, especially in light of them making good on the total amount, as an indication of lying and misleading people? No.
Situations change. They made good on the total amount. You can claim that they technically lied because it took two checks instead of one, but I'd say at that point you're more worried about scoring points on technicalities than caring about the actual end result.
Calling fact checking dead because they chose to look at the whole picture, while still taking the time to note the technicalities, is incredibly short sighted or incredibly partisan.
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#5It's very hard to follow this article, but I'm mostly upset that it's apparently legal to directly promise voters money if they vote for you. Talk about moral hazard.
It's really no different than campaigning on tax breaks, industry subsidies, infrastructure plans, or a million other things. All of these ultimately boil down to "Elect me, and I'm putting more money in your pocket."
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#6It's very hard to follow this article, but I'm mostly upset that it's apparently legal to directly promise voters money if they vote for you. Talk about moral hazard.
It's really no different than campaigning on tax breaks, industry subsidies, infrastructure plans, or a million other things. All of these ultimately boil down to "Elect me, and I'm putting more money in your pocket."
It IS slightly different. In those cases it's much less direct, and the candidates at least tend to pretend that it's for some greater good. Here Biden literally said "vote for him and he'll put the cheque in the mail."
All pretence is gone. Talk about "naked (crony) capitalism".
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's really no different than campaigning on tax breaks, industry subsidies, infrastructure plans, or a million other things. All of these ultimately boil down to "Elect me, and I'm putting more money in your pocket."
It IS slightly different. In those cases it's much less direct, and the candidates at least tend to pretend that it's for some greater good. Here Biden literally said "vote for him and he'll put the cheque in the mail." All pretence is gone. Talk about "naked (crony) capitalism".
I'd argue that removing the facade that anything else was going on is a positive outcome rather than a negative.
I'd also argue that promising stimulus payments when the country is facing an unprecedented global pandemic and all the knock on economic impacts is pretty reasonable, but I expect we disagree there as well.
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
It IS slightly different. In those cases it's much less direct, and the candidates at least tend to pretend that it's for some greater good. Here Biden literally said "vote for him and he'll put the cheque in the mail." All pretence is gone. Talk about "naked (crony) capitalism".
I'd argue that removing the facade that anything else was going on is a positive outcome rather than a negative. I'd also argue that promising stimulus payments when the country is facing an unprecedented global pandemic and all the knock on economic impacts is pretty reasonable, but I expect we disagree there as well.
Do you think he's appealing to people's inner economist - "vote for me because helicopter money is good for the economy" or to their greed?
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd argue that removing the facade that anything else was going on is a positive outcome rather than a negative. I'd also argue that promising stimulus payments when the country is facing an unprecedented global pandemic and all the knock on economic impacts is pretty reasonable, but I expect we disagree there as well.
Do you think he's appealing to people's inner economist - "vote for me because helicopter money is good for the economy" or to their greed?
I think that a huge amount of people in this country were and still are suffering from the economic impact of this virus and the related lockdowns and that desiring financial aid from the government to help support them in their time of need is not a matter of greed.
Re: Fact-Checking Is Dead, Killed by Snopes over Biden’s Promise of $2000 Checks
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think he's appealing to people's inner economist - "vote for me because helicopter money is good for the economy" or to their greed?
I think that a huge amount of people in this country were and still are suffering from the economic impact of this virus and the related lockdowns and that desiring financial aid from the government to help support them in their time of need is not a matter of greed.
Regardless, do people vote because THEY want a cheque or because they think it’s what the country needs?