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Re: Prince Philip has died

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Because a lot of people get enjoyment from it (e.g. my mum), and removing it wouldn't save much money.

It perpetuates the idea that you cannot rise beyond the class you're born into; indeed also that class still exists and still commands respect.

Even without a monarchy, society can self-organize into self-perpetuating classes. See "Class: A Guide Through the American Status System" by Paul Fussell.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Also a well documented racist. Of course more of the obituaries are leaving that out and bending words to avoid that... examples I've seen: (Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sg_lsY_Y-RoED3IjAjZR... ) - "with off-the-cuff remarks that were called oblivious, insensitive or worse." - "The duke could be blunt and outspoken to the point of offensiveness" - "his unfiltered remarks and attempts at humor becam…

lol, chill out. everyone has said regrettable things.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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It wasn't that long ago he recovered from an infection [1]. And I remember reading he is only a few more months from 100 years old!. Spending his life serving the country. Rest In Peace [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56172496

> Spending his life serving the country. Rest in Peace. The man was almost 100 years old, almost 30 when India and many other countries got independence from British after a long multi-decade struggle, with many many innocent dead. Frankly I see him as a wealthy old man from a very influential family who should have done better. Am I wrong that this was my first though after seeing this comment? Am I supposed to feel…

>Am I wrong that this was my first though after seeing this comment?

Yes.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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I wonder if he will get to be reincarnated as a deadly virus that contributes to the "overpopulation problem" like he wished. (yes, for real) I find the many servile and naive responses here really quite pathetic. The man was evil both personally and as part of the structure of the monarchy. I understand that many simply don't know about his history, either as outsiders with a strange fascination with royalty but onl…

How is the monarchy more evil than the current corporate oligopoly? The latter does far more damage to society.

I might not be more evil, but the monarchy is he linchpin upon which Britain's immense woes with social class rest.

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> Spending his life serving the country. Rest in Peace. The man was almost 100 years old, almost 30 when India and many other countries got independence from British after a long multi-decade struggle, with many many innocent dead. Frankly I see him as a wealthy old man from a very influential family who should have done better. Am I wrong that this was my first though after seeing this comment? Am I supposed to feel…

>Am I wrong that this was my first though after seeing this comment? Yes.

why?

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"sacred geometry", esoteric, Pythagorean and holistic? It certainly sounds freemasonry-like. Was he a Freemason?

Uh. What? Sacred Geometry is an ancient Greek concept that has nothing to do with Freemasons. Pythagoras was the most famous person to push it. It's that thing where they thought the world was made out of the Platonic solids, tried to explain the planetary orbits in terms of polygons, et cetera. It remained huge through Greece and Italy until the 1400s. The Leonardo piece "Vitruvian Man," where the guy has his arms a…

It’s probably a mystic tradition that Freemasons adopted after the fact.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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We did Celts (Bronze and Iron age), some on ancient Greece, Romans, Vikings, Tudors (briefly, we didn't do Henry VIIIs wives, more about Shakespear), Spanish Armada, colonialism, slave trade, and then loads on WW1 and WW2. I do agree that more should be taught about the details of colonialism but the idea that British history started with Henry VIII and skipped to WW1 is nonsense.

It might be worth noting that your experience can differ from theirs without it being untrue. I can say that I did Ancient Greece, Romans, Tudors, touched a little on the Spanish Armada before skipping straight to WW2. Neither of the two schools I attended touched on Colonialism in any recognisable degree, and Slavery was more "We stopped slavery, good job england", when in reality it wasn't done from a place of mora…

I think there was at least some morality at play from the likes of the Quakers, Wilberforce etc. It seems unnecessarily reductionist to say only one or the other force was present, and probably historically inaccurate.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Yes, 1918 allowed some women to vote -- over 30, and property owners (or married to such). In 1918 all men over 21 could vote. 1928 equalised it to everyone over 21

1928 is what I should have written.

Most people think "1918" as that was the first time some women were allowed to vote, and later in the year they were allowed to stand for parliament (and Nancy Astor did so in 1919)

Like most things, Suffrage was a scale - before 1835 most men didn't have a vote either, working men got it in 1867, 1918 all men over 21 and property holding women over 30 got the vote, in 1928 all women over 21 and in 1969 everyone over 18. In devloved areas like Scotland suffrage is even lower (16).

Unlike in the US I don't think it's ever regressed

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Also a well documented racist. Of course more of the obituaries are leaving that out and bending words to avoid that... examples I've seen: (Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sg_lsY_Y-RoED3IjAjZR... ) - "with off-the-cuff remarks that were called oblivious, insensitive or worse." - "The duke could be blunt and outspoken to the point of offensiveness" - "his unfiltered remarks and attempts at humor becam…

We should have a designated shit talker on everyone's wake. Someone who only purpose is to bring every bad word said, bad deeds, remember the unreturned books or any item.

Fun fact: that’s what the Devil’s Advocate actually was - a person appointed by the church to argue against canonizing someone by digging up any negative things about them that can be found:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate

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