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Post by danielrpa »

fastball wrote: post #339
danielrpa wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It cuts both ways. The life of a British Royal is better than almost anyone else's. At the same time, they don't really have a lot of freedom in the usual sense - a lot of ceremonies, formal parties, events etc. You might have a better life as an retired, anonymous millionaire with some US$5M in the bank (which would also make you extremely privileged).

They can leave whenever they want. Golden handcuffs are not actual handcuffs.

Do you ever really leave? No matter what you do, the media will be after you. Not a day of complete peace of mind.

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Post by gadders »

smcl wrote: post #156
gadders wrote: post #126

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Vindictive, with an adolescent desire to shock and offend?

Not having any strong feelings about the birth, life or death of the royals is an extremely mild sentiment that is shared by millions in the UK and billions across the globe. If you find it shocking, offensive or vindictive then I don't think the internet is the place for you.

It's the urge to blurt it out to be controversial that is what I find childish.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by cryptica »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #352

I wonder if he will get to be reincarnated as a deadly virus that contributes to the "overpopulation problem" like he wished. (yes, for real) I find the many servile and naive responses here really quite pathetic. The man was evil both personally and as part of the structure of the monarchy. I understand that many simply don't know about his history, either as outsiders with a strange fascination with royalty but onl…

How is the monarchy more evil than the current corporate oligopoly? The latter does far more damage to society.

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Post by oneplane »

dmos62 wrote: post #342
oneplane wrote: post #259

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I don't think there is such a thing as 'alternative medicine'. There is medicine, and there is not-medicine. Just like there is treatment and there is not-treatment. Calling things 'alternative' puts them on the same level, which they are not.

Is laughter a treatment? It depends. A treatment is something you use to treat. Not something that is effective. If you want to summarize evidence or present opinion, do so, but don't play with language.

We could expand the word to the context it was used in if that is what you desire: medical treatment. We're not talking about treatment in itself, since that would also cover unrelated issues like 'waste water treatment', which isn't exactly related to the conversational context here.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by jen20 »

dghf wrote: post #192
philistine wrote: post #98

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I argue that because she focused so hard on being seen positively that she hurt the monarchy in the long run. Her son has nowhere to go but down. She also forced the British Supreme Court to invent the idea that advice given to her can be unlawful, and did not stay out of politics as you said: she was laser-focused on making sure her privileges and money didn’t get touched by denying Queen’s consent. https://www.theg…

> She also forced the British Supreme Court to invent the idea that advice given to her can be unlawful How did she do that?

I imagine this is a reference to Jacob Rees-Mogg lying to the Queen [1] about the prorogation of parliament in order to prevent effective debate or scrutiny about Brexit proceedings.

[1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by PicassoCTs »

533474 wrote: post #241

99 years of tax subsidies, he surely had a good life without many regrets. It's beyond my comprehension why humans still keep these hereditary regimes, constitutional or absolutist, alive

Cause we are tribal creatures, and having a powerless pro-forma chieftain, prevents other totalitarian chief-tains to go for a easy power grab.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by toomanybeersies »

fastball wrote: post #339
danielrpa wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It cuts both ways. The life of a British Royal is better than almost anyone else's. At the same time, they don't really have a lot of freedom in the usual sense - a lot of ceremonies, formal parties, events etc. You might have a better life as an retired, anonymous millionaire with some US$5M in the bank (which would also make you extremely privileged).

They can leave whenever they want. Golden handcuffs are not actual handcuffs.

> They can leave whenever they want.

Not to imply equivalence in magnitude, but people say say the same about people trapped in abusive relationships.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by dalbasal »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #165
dalbasal wrote: post #74

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Does this count as a technological regression?

I'm sure they have automated a lot of it, so maybe it has progressed in that less man hours are required per message, and on top of that, they are probably in color, with pictures, which is way more than you get with a telegram.

This comment could literally (literally literal) be an imperial apologist in one of Asimov's books... even the concise, urging, commaed style.

You promised us instant messaging. All we got is colour postcards. This is the beginning of a dark age.

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Post by jen20 »

gadders wrote: post #118
bidirectional wrote: post #104

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It should be noted that the 'staying out of politics' is a public phenomenon. In her weekly meeting with the Prime Minister, The Queen makes her political stance well known (that is the entire point of the meeting).

She's worked with 14 prime ministers, starting with Winston Churchill and going downhill from there. She might know a thing or two.

> going downhill from there

While the office may have had consecutive local minima, one would be hard pushed to suggest Major, Blair or even Brown - were "downhill" from Callaghan.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by nicky0 »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #319
s_dev wrote: post #203

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>I think it’s interesting that you’d blame this family for the horrors of colonialism. Heres the opening for Patrick Freyne in the Irish Times on the British Monarchy: "Having a monarchy next door is a little like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and has daubed their house with clown murals, displays clown dolls in each window and has an insatiable desire to hear about and discuss clown-related news storie…

> the British monarchy does represent imperialism and colonialism Exactly this. The institution of the monarchy is why the family is to blame. They aren't to blame simply for who they are descended from, but they are to blame for choosing to continue to participate in the monarchy.

Do you feel better for having decided who is to blame?
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