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Is Netflix's Seaspiracy film right about fishing damaging oceans?

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Re: Is Netflix's Seaspiracy film right about fishing damaging oceans?

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If 46% of the Pacific garbage patch is fishing nets doesn't that make it easier to clean up? Some of the nets will have disintegrated but surely some must have large pieces of them intact? All the photos of the patch I've seen tend to be individual plastic items - bottles, cups etc. – so wondering if anyone's seen different EDIT: Found this https://mymodernmet.com/ocean-voyages-institute-great-pacifi... the majority…

the problem is - where do you put it and who takes on that burden?

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Is anything preventing us from just getting a line of cargo ships and loading up the patch to be processed on-shore? Currently many ships are being sent empty due to supply issues.

I think it's probably hard to just pick it up from the ocean.

These people are developing tech for it: https://theoceancleanup.com/

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Is anything preventing us from just getting a line of cargo ships and loading up the patch to be processed on-shore? Currently many ships are being sent empty due to supply issues.

Fragmented floating waste isn't the easiest stuff to pick up at the best of times, and normal loading equipment (cranes etc) is attached to the dock rather than the ship.

Obviously it's not impossible, but I imagine it'd take some serious bespoke engineering and investment.

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My single biggest takeaway from watching it was that there is no "sustainable industrial fishing" despite every political advocacy group stating that as a bullet point "eat sustainable fish" to helping biodiversity and fish stocks.

Basically unless the a dude has a fishing rod and is catching his own dinner it's unsustainable.

Those boys over at impossbile burger better be whipping up some fish substitutes because I think the future of the fishing industry will look like what the British fishing industry is going through with Brexit right now -- a sudden collapse.

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Both cowspiracy and seaspiracy, received a lot of critics and fact check by prominence professors.

"oversimplifies a complex issue", so why don't try to explain it to us? Instead of criticizing and discrediting real issues that we're going to face in a few years.

Ah, they're quoting multiple times professor X and study Y without links or reference...

I'm not a Netflix fan/users, but I saw those documentaries and I really appreciate the effort they're doing to open the eyes of a lot of people.

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Generally we believe that Malthusianism is now in the trash heap of mistaken ideas. A lot of people miss that even today close to a billion people are starving and close to half the world population doesn’t get all the nutrients they need for a normal life expectancy. And ecology is already at the brink of collapse. As people around the world adopt more “first world” eating habits I doubt much of the earth will be le…

> We may have to manage the entire ecosystem at some point and use robots to pollinate our plants. The earth will go from being an ecosystem to being a hotel for humans.

I bet we don't understand even one fifth of every interactions going on between animals and plants, deep ocean currents, high altitude winds, &c. everything is interconnected, we might be the smartest apes on earth but we're faaaaar away from being able to use our tech to counter balance the damage we already dealt.

All we're able to detect are visible symptoms far too late to even act on them, we might be missing deep changes and we won't know before it's too late

This book kinda touches the subject: https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/09/26/the-hidden-life-of-...

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Generally we believe that Malthusianism is now in the trash heap of mistaken ideas. A lot of people miss that even today close to a billion people are starving and close to half the world population doesn’t get all the nutrients they need for a normal life expectancy. And ecology is already at the brink of collapse. As people around the world adopt more “first world” eating habits I doubt much of the earth will be le…

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