Did Apple pay anything for this? If not, they should.
I think they would rather pay to not have this.
Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
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Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#52Maybe I am being over cynical by isn't this a huge waste of time given that Apple can "pull the plug" at any time? They want to control everything that runs on their chips so why bother?
Yeah it’s a waste of time but there are people out there that enjoy wasting their time making this work and Linus likes hardware support.
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every single laptop my company bought me in the last 10 years (3+) had kernel/driver issues, especially with Ubuntu, since the kernel version was usually lower than that from other distros, like Fedora. This includes mostly graphics driver issues (either simply Nvidia, or hybrids, or some exotic protocols such as DisplayLink), but also touchpad, power/suspend issues (e.g. wake-up failure), lack of fingerprint or smar…
I can live without the fingerprint reader. It’s the lack of hibernate that really sucks. I got my 2013 MBA battery replaced. Leave it unplugged for 10 hours. 1% battery drop. XPS 17 on Pop OS LTS with kernel 5.8. I have to shut down if I want battery left.
Had the same problem with mine. You need to change the sleep mode. You need to change sleep to mem_sleep_default=deep
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#54See, even linux has these corporate branch squashers, mixing completely unrelated patches into their feature branch. Here the m1-support feature included the unrelated removal of Cyclades, ISIcom and RocketPort/RocketModem.
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#55This is very anecdotal but every single laptop I have bought in the last 10 years (4) worked perfectly out-of-the box with either Linux Mint or Ubuntu (which are the same on the inside). I only vaguely remember once I had to change some conf file for my trackpad to work after a dist update but that was it. Not sure why everyone in this thread is so hesitant about Linux on a laptop? It literally just works (tm) for me…
Not hesitant, just personal preference. Probably like that for a lot of people here. I used Linux on desktop (later, laptop) for a long time, since the late 90s - went through so many phases, "not enough RAM to run X", barebones X, "emacs for everything", enlightenment, gnome desktop, etc.
At some point the churn got to me and I stopped customising my computer environments. Just use the defaults. By this time OSX was a "real UNIX" and I hopped over. No regrets. It does what I need it to do, which is still mostly to run a terminal and a browser.
I will say that reliably turning on and off when I close the lid is a great quality of life improvement.
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#56Would someone familiar with the porting effort tell what where the major obstacles and breakthroughs. It would also be interesting to hear what methods were used in the process and who are the people behind the effort. Thank you in advance. You will find appreciative audience here in HN for such engineering porn.
Not an expert, but porting graphics is the biggest effort. This patch appears to add just the CPU part. Here is one effort to port all of M1 macs to linux: https://www.patreon.com/marcan
It is the very effort that created the linked patchset.
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#57This is very anecdotal but every single laptop I have bought in the last 10 years (4) worked perfectly out-of-the box with either Linux Mint or Ubuntu (which are the same on the inside). I only vaguely remember once I had to change some conf file for my trackpad to work after a dist update but that was it. Not sure why everyone in this thread is so hesitant about Linux on a laptop? It literally just works (tm) for me…
I feel like the pattern is that when you start to dig into people talking about their great experience with Linux on a laptop, you end up eventually getting them to admit that there are a lot of annoyances they’ve just resigned to living with
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple has publicly stated their intent to permit users to run other operating systems on Apple silicon, and has provided various mechanisms for them to do so in a first-class way (still supporting secure boot, for instance). Of course, they haven't gone as far as many of use would like - marcan has had to do a lot of reverse engineering of stuff they could have just released the docs for, and it's always possible the…
Can you link to the public statement? Would greatly appreciate that, thanks!
The public statement is in the software by allowing to boot even non signed OSs from an external disk. https://techsviewer.com/how-to-allow-m1-and-t2-mac-to-use-an...
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#59This is very anecdotal but every single laptop I have bought in the last 10 years (4) worked perfectly out-of-the box with either Linux Mint or Ubuntu (which are the same on the inside). I only vaguely remember once I had to change some conf file for my trackpad to work after a dist update but that was it. Not sure why everyone in this thread is so hesitant about Linux on a laptop? It literally just works (tm) for me…
The experience has dramatically improved since when I first started using Linux with Ubuntu dapper. I have had very good success as well. Having said that, I have run into hibernation, track pad issues with Asus devices. Optimus is also a right pain in the ass. Your best bet is a Dell laptop with an integrated Intel gpu chip.
Can confirm. Linux "just works" now to the extent that it's boring. I remember when I was a teen the struggle of getting things like WiFi to work and the joy when you finally did it. For years now I've been running Gentoo and it works better than most distros did back then!
Re: Initial M1 support merged into Linux SoC tree
#60This is very anecdotal but every single laptop I have bought in the last 10 years (4) worked perfectly out-of-the box with either Linux Mint or Ubuntu (which are the same on the inside). I only vaguely remember once I had to change some conf file for my trackpad to work after a dist update but that was it. Not sure why everyone in this thread is so hesitant about Linux on a laptop? It literally just works (tm) for me…
I feel like the pattern is that when you start to dig into people talking about their great experience with Linux on a laptop, you end up eventually getting them to admit that there are a lot of annoyances they’ve just resigned to living with
I'm trying to think of one and literally can't. everything works these days. even Bluetooth audio isn't a problem anymore.