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This is a real shame. I wish we could do something to stop this insanity. Their dogmatic approach to D&I is really scary honestly. On top of that, you are marked if you are a "cis white male". It doesn't matter if you are an immigrant. It doesn't matter if you are jewish (less than 0.003% of the global population, so one of most minority minorities), doesn't matter if you have a rich ethnic background with white skin…

Because that’s not what it’s about; it’s about having a diverse leadership that more closely resembles the makeup of our nation and communities. Cis white men make up only about 30% of our population but account for probably 80% (and that’s being generous) of positions above middle management. It’s the cultural homogeneity that’s the business problem, and that doesn’t get solved without the right optics. Most of thes…

Oh okay so if we are going by populations, all companies should strictly be 6.7% black and no more, right?

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For many years my partner and I operated in the same way. I paid our rent, utilities and food while she spent on her hobbies and saved. I was not unhappy during this time because I didn't want much. A few years ago though, I became a bit more financially aware after having my first soul crushing job and realizing I couldn't rely on work to produce income in the same "easy" way I had when I was younger. The emotional…

"...having my first soul crushing job and realizing I couldn't rely on work to produce income in the same "easy" way I had when I was younger. The emotional cost had become too high." I feel exactly like this. My wife has basically changed what she wants (or stopped hiding it) now that we are married. She wants a big fancy house and she wants to live in an suburbanized and expensive area. She originally told me she w…

Watch American beauty. Do that.

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I'm a musician and developer/architecture consultant. My goal since day one of tech work 15 years ago was "fund music life better", so I hear what you are saying. I currently average half-time and make a comfortable middle class salary. The big thing to realize is that there is a huge difference between "I want a job where I can do minimal work and mostly do my own thing while still getting paid" and "I want a job wh…

You got my curious, which subfield are you in or which subfields you’d recommend for someone to specialize in like you’ve said?

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

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Hmm... I'm looking for a backend developer. Don't care where you are in the world. The job is really vague at the moment and since it's new the pay would be on the low end. Sounds almost like a good fit. What's the best way to get in contact with you?

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Hmm.. I am looking for a backend developer. Don't care where you are in the world. The job is really vague at the moment as I work through it and the pay would be low as I'm starting out. Sounds almost like a good fit. What's the best way to get in contact with you?

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

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Find a B2B company which has some project no one cares about.

In one companies I worked for it was a mobile app that no one used or cared. Main product was a web app but it was also shitty. The company lived on selling this to new customers with long-term contracts so once they got a deal the work is done. The app was de-facto only needed for some demos, and mobile app was just so sales can say they have a mobile app.

So in the team there was one backend guy who worked there for 5 years. He spent max 1 hour a day working, but mostly he never worked at all (he had months of no commit history), he was just sitting in the corner and doing his side gigs or whatnot. He was the only one who knew codebase for his proxy server that communicated with the rest of the backend.

The rest of the team (mobile devs) also did not care about it because there were no pressure from management, but they did some work, but it was also pretty much chilling. And because everyone liked the guy as he had awesome social skills and was a really nice person, no one bothered him. And he got good salary initially so he did not need any promotions.

That backend guy eventually went to another company. In these 5 years he got enough time to buy a house, travel a lot, had a child, started his own business etc.

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Thank you for your advice. I do not have it in me anymore to get the high paying job and go all-out, unfortunately. I understand the really boring jobs would probably lead to depression and not much else. I think a good alternative path would be to look for real jobs but as a part-timer. I'm not sure if there are any ~20 hours a week dev jobs, but that would most likely be enough. I'm passionate about playing a compe…

Well, you could teach that sport to others (as a part-time coach for amateurs, for example), you could create training videos and materials, write books or a blog with tactics, tricks etc. If you're not the only person in the world into this sport, I am sure there are many other people who share your passion and would be happy to pay you for materials or training as they themselves will only have limited time to inve…

But it's one thing to train and play your favourite sport, and a completely different thing to be a coach for others. It does not follow that he will get the same satisfaction from the latter. And financially it would be probably much worse than IT.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

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I've worked in a few different capacities and have seen this happen, and seen previously excellent developers decide they simply couldn't take the pressure and head out for something easier. I can respect the latter and provided your interest isn't in attempting to "get away with pretending to work[0]", desiring a less demanding role somewhere else isn't something worthy of "flak". Onto advice: I had a friend who wor…

> excellent developers decide they simply couldn't take the pressure and head out for something easier Been working since late 90's with a 1.5 year break for grad school, but going through some extreme burnout right now and I totally want to do this. Don't want to try to "get away with pretending to work" at all, just want something easier with less pressure/stress. > Check they're IT ops/dev organization; note wheth…

  > Can you name some specific companies to look at for this?
Not any specific companies, no. I helped my friend do the job search, though. The criteria we used was "The role he was willing to take had to be in-house or majority in-house" and "Probably a support role". I also realize I wrote that wall of text way too fast because I've slightly mixed in two different peoples' stories by accident[0] one of which had nothing to do with burnout.

To figure out the first, we started at job boards and just "went through the list looking for big companies". Often, if they outsource, the job posting will be from that company, not BigCorp, but not always. From there, at the time, it was pretty easy to confirm by just hopping on LinkedIn and looking up people who worked in similar roles at the company. If you can find a few folks listing their employer as BigCorp, in your role, and the other things match -- he applied.

He was targeting power/telecom mostly[1]. And he ended up getting offers for all but one or two of the interviews he took, which confirmed my thinking that "big companies get terrible candidates". On paper (and in real life, for that matter), my buddy was an excellent candidate and incredibly smart... just burned out. The thing of it is, last I talked to him, he is still puts in more than 40 hours (remotely, though), and he was still the team hero.

  > Which route did he go, the DBA team or third-party IT org?
I haven't talked to him in about a year, but he ended up taking a gig on a sort-of DBA team (sort-of in that their responsibilities covered on-prem hardware and some DevOps work, and the job listing barely mentioned DBA work ... and it was posted as a Unix Sysadmin job[2]). He's working remotely directly for the company in that role and another who took a job at a third-party IT org (HP Enterprise or something like that), remotely (with on-prem requirements on rare occasion, etc). I know the third-party gentleman ran into some problems and, I think, is working somewhere else (similar role), now though.

[0] I do this on purpose, on occasion, because 15-or-so years ago I commented on something including an innocent story on Digg (first iteration), which turned out that I didn't have all of the information on -- and it was far less innocent than I realized -- which someone pseudonomously provided. The result was a bit of embarrassment but not much more. I took it as a warning to be more careful with stories that aren't mine.

[1] For no other reason than "I worked at a global multi-national telecom, which was a 'sort-of' tech company and we in-housed most of our IT".

[2] Just. Yeah. ... Huh?! Big corporations and job postings in IT are a whole other topic.

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I think it says a lot about our society, that this comment is the most highly upvoted in a forum such as this. It's clear that if we decided to let everyone's basic needs of food, shelter, healthcare, and transport be met unconditionally, the world would look very different. It would not cost us much, maybe even less than we pay in taxes now, but I feel certain it would make everyone's lives significantly better. The…

This situation seems ideal, but how would you get people to do the grunt work? This is one thing the current system takes care of with threats, for lack of better words.

What if it was rotated among "everyone"? I think people would be happy to do grunt work for a week (probably even a month or two) if it meant that they get all the rest of their time back to do what they want.
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