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Thank you for the honesty. This is very valuable feedback. It’s very hard to find a way to convey what’s different... i’ll keep trying
I particularly appreciate comparison pages to other products (even if they are clearly biased). How does this product differ from Tableau / Metabase? Or perhaps there's a different competitor to compare to. It helps me understand exactly what the product does and why I should want to use it.
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> This is a Machiavellian area with a survivorship bias That's just, like, your opinion, man. And for context: I believe humanity is at the least Darwinian point of its survival to date. To that end, any belief that we are in some sort of zero sum competition with one another is a lean towards a more primitive way of thinking which will actively hold back humanity's advancement.
A quantifiable opinion if you noticed I was referring to entrepreneurship especially amongst software sales and SaaS products, and not humanity.
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Ok sounds like an easy first step. Thanks for the tip.
What it does: Jig helps CEOs/CTOs get custom insights about their businesses without using much developer time. Install the beta from https://www.jigdev.com
Generally I suggest deleting most of the text above the screenshots.
Downloaded it and installed it, and you seriously need to have some kind of onboarding for this kind of tool. I'm an extremely technical person and I have no idea what I'm looking at. I can create cells that have code in them? How do they connect? What's the output, what's the input? Can I at least see an example of a jig file? Is this vanilla Javascript? It looks like it might be, but the `viewof` keyword is confusi…
Sorry for wasting your time.
In a nutshell:
- cells are code blocks that form a directed acyclic graph (like cells in Excel)
- cells can have a name (v=10) that can referenced in other cells (w=10*v)
- the whole thing is not exactly javascript, the viewof keyword represents the “html element of the cell”. This needs more than a comment on HN...
Downloaded it and installed it, and you seriously need to have some kind of onboarding for this kind of tool. I'm an extremely technical person and I have no idea what I'm looking at. I can create cells that have code in them? How do they connect? What's the output, what's the input? Can I at least see an example of a jig file? Is this vanilla Javascript? It looks like it might be, but the `viewof` keyword is confusi…
Noted. I think that’s likely the first thing to do. ie. that when a person’s interested enough to download the tool, they actually get to understand the basics of what it does... Sorry for wasting your time. In a nutshell: - cells are code blocks that form a directed acyclic graph (like cells in Excel) - cells can have a name (v=10) that can referenced in other cells (w=10*v) - the whole thing is not exactly javascri…
Users in group #4 are allergic to anything with appearance of code in the same room that they cohabitate. Users in group #3 will also get panic attacks by getting code mixed with their visualizations. Users in group #2 will tolerate it, but will fear how their reputation would be affected if anybody see them coding.
My message hear here is similar to what you have received so far. You need to pivot how you market this solution.
Downloaded it and installed it, and you seriously need to have some kind of onboarding for this kind of tool. I'm an extremely technical person and I have no idea what I'm looking at. I can create cells that have code in them? How do they connect? What's the output, what's the input? Can I at least see an example of a jig file? Is this vanilla Javascript? It looks like it might be, but the `viewof` keyword is confusi…
Noted. I think that’s likely the first thing to do. ie. that when a person’s interested enough to download the tool, they actually get to understand the basics of what it does... Sorry for wasting your time. In a nutshell: - cells are code blocks that form a directed acyclic graph (like cells in Excel) - cells can have a name (v=10) that can referenced in other cells (w=10*v) - the whole thing is not exactly javascri…
Not at all, this is what testing out new products is all about! I think you may have something here, but it's hard to figure out exactly what.
Don't get me wrong, I think marketing and splash copy is important (a lot of comments are about your website), but I would personally focus first and foremost on the value proposition of your product.
> - the whole thing is not exactly javascript, the viewof keyword represents the “html element of the cell”. This needs more than a comment on HN...
Gotcha, I was also trying to label a graph's axes based on textlabels (two different cells), but I couldn't figure out how. Some docs, at least specifying what kind of object a graph or a table is expecting would be very helpful. Also, it's kind of odd that md`hello ${text1}` works, whereas I was expecting it to be md`hello ${text1.value}`. The reactivity is awesome though!
It looks interesting, but CEO's don't have time to get syntax errors. That is why they pay big money to companies for products like Synergy SmartViews or UniPoint or Crystal Reports. So they can pay someone with moderate skills a moderate salary to generate professional looking reports. This would have to undercut those other tools in price and also be geared towards more technical industries. Preferably industries t…
CEOs in 20-people companies don’t have time for syntax errors for sure, but they do care how much time reports take away from building features.
Anyway that needs rephrasing
You may not like Excel but most people who "NEED A QUICK ANALYSIS FOR YOUR BUSINESS" (to quote your copy from https://www.jigdev.com ) rely on it. I think you have a solution in search of problem. Showing it to more people is not the answer. Adding features only helps when you have someone who has a clear point of dissatisfaction with Excel. Who is so dissatisfied with Excel that they will take the time to install an…
I look at this and think about hours I generally do this work in Jupyter.
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Noted. I think that’s likely the first thing to do. ie. that when a person’s interested enough to download the tool, they actually get to understand the basics of what it does... Sorry for wasting your time. In a nutshell: - cells are code blocks that form a directed acyclic graph (like cells in Excel) - cells can have a name (v=10) that can referenced in other cells (w=10*v) - the whole thing is not exactly javascri…
> Sorry for wasting your time. Not at all, this is what testing out new products is all about! I think you may have something here, but it's hard to figure out exactly what. Don't get me wrong, I think marketing and splash copy is important (a lot of comments are about your website), but I would personally focus first and foremost on the value proposition of your product. > - the whole thing is not exactly javascript…
You’ll find plenty of onboarding stuff there if you’re interested.
Observable is great, but it’s got some annoying traits (saas only, lock in, no 2d layouts, no tabs) which make it not well suited to solving business problems.