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Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

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You are marketing toward the wrong person in the company, and I'm not sure how to fix it because: In a big/medium company, business analysts do this work. A business analyst doesn't know javascript. They use Excel. The javascript devs know how to make charts themselves. That's why nobody came. :)

If you're a dev doing data work, it looks useful.

In particular, it seems nice that in a single file you can keep both your data and code, together, easily.

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

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post #31
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok sounds like an easy first step. Thanks for the tip.

What it does: Jig helps CEOs/CTOs get custom insights about their businesses without using much developer time. Install the beta from https://www.jigdev.com

I think the name for what you are offering is called "Business Intelligence".

Now you need to be able to handle objections.

What does this offer (me the CEO/CTO) that isn't done with Tableau or PowerBI?

Those tools get me custom insights about the business without using any developer time; the work is generally done by entry-level data analysts or accountants.

(This is not to say your idea is bad, but this is an objection you will need to have a response too, like "this tool is cheaper". If that response seems to get traction you might change your pitch to "it gives you 80% of Tableau, but at 20% of the price".)

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

#64
post #45

You are marketing toward the wrong person in the company, and I'm not sure how to fix it because: In a big/medium company, business analysts do this work. A business analyst doesn't know javascript. They use Excel. The javascript devs know how to make charts themselves. That's why nobody came. :)

If you're a dev doing data work, it looks useful. In particular, it seems nice that in a single file you can keep both your data and code, together, easily.

How would this compare to jupyter notebook?

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a dev doing data work, it looks useful. In particular, it seems nice that in a single file you can keep both your data and code, together, easily.

How would this compare to jupyter notebook?

Had this exact thought.

Like a node/electron version of jupyter.

IIRC jupyter has a node kernel too, though not sure how well it integrates with the plotting API etc.

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

#66
So I can kind of see what you are trying to get at with your product. There are 3 books I recommend you read to help you further:

1. "Competing Against Luck" by Clay Christensen https://www.amazon.com/Competing-Against-Luck-Innovation-Cus...

This book will teach you how to look at the market from a jobs-to-be-done perspective. People don't want products, they want progress. They will hire a product to do a job for them towards that progress. It will help you understand where your product fits in ie. you should be able to answer the questions "what job can my product be hired to do?", "what progress does it help make? and for whom?"

2. Obviously Awesome https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning...

This is a book on Positioning by April Dunford. It's absolutely fabulous! It will help you understand how to position your product in the market and how to clearly communicate your benefits to them.

3. Demand-side Sales by Bob Moesta https://www.amazon.com/Demand-Side-Sales-101-Customers-Progr...

This is a sales book that explores things from a jobs-to-be-done perspectives. I have found his frameworks extremely helpful.

These 3 books taken together will help you understand your market better, communicate with them more clearly and position your product in a way that the market gets it. More importantly, working with your target market in this way will help you reshape the product towards something they will eventually want to buy.

Hope this helps!

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

#67
"What features are not in the beta, but that I can expect soon?

Database connectivity. Right now, you can only access REST apis, and local files. Support for MySql, PostGreSQL and others is coming soon."

That is killing you in my opinion. I'd wager it's 90%+ of your typical use case.

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

#68
This is a startup in a similar space. https://usesummit.com/

It is a replacement for Excel that is much more powerful. Target users are CFO pulling in different financial data.

If you listen to the Out of Beta podcast, you can hear the founder as he progresses through creating Summit. Might help for learning product and marketing process.

Re: Ask HN: I built it, nobody came, now what?

#70
post #49

Downloaded it and installed it, and you seriously need to have some kind of onboarding for this kind of tool. I'm an extremely technical person and I have no idea what I'm looking at. I can create cells that have code in them? How do they connect? What's the output, what's the input? Can I at least see an example of a jig file? Is this vanilla Javascript? It looks like it might be, but the `viewof` keyword is confusi…

It is a reporting and graphing tool for data. Like Synergy SmartViews or Crystal Reports but instead of a Visual editor for crafting queries this uses code instead.
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