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Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by paedubucher » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

antiterra wrote: post #97

danShumway wrote: post #56

I want to hecking scream. The point of the original website in this chain was not that you couldn't do media queries, or that all of your designs had to be unstyled. It was a gosh-darned satire that showed that even if you did literally nothing , your website would still be responsive and readable and load fast. The fact that it did nothing, that it was just a completely unstyled HTML page was the reason that the jok…

If someone's attempt at a joke and the open discussion of web design gets you that upset, you might benefit from an extended break from the internet. Unless you get angry at clouds.

Upset? This is a very accurate and sober analysis.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by jmondi » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

u801e wrote: post #102

kuschku wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. Do you like 400 nits of #ffffff right into your eyeballs? No? Me neither. The alternative is absolute darkness with extremely bright text, which in turn makes it unreadable (if you have astigmatism as I do) and literally causes pain due to the high contrast. Nothing in nature has such an extreme contrast. The only reason anyone would ever use full contrast is if they have a shitty 6-bit…

> Nothing in nature has such an extreme contrast. What about black text on white pages in an actual hardback book? But since you referred to nature, what about zebras?

What books are you reading that have pure white pages with pure black text on them? At best they are eggshell or an off-white page. Also... books are nature now?

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by swiley » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

Veen wrote: post #23

progval wrote: post #8

> And did you let the browser choose the font? Don’t make me read such text with Times New Roman. I don't understand this attitude. If you don't like Times New Roman, why don't you change your browser's default font? What I don't like is when websites tell my browser to use a different font or different colors than the ones I configured. (Off-topic, but something that really annoys me is websites that make text in ve…

Why is that? Do you also find it infuriating when magazines and books don't use your preferred font? Perhaps it annoys you when web pages don't use your favourite colour for every element too. Web pages are designed and typography is part of the design.

Books are often typeset by competent people (or at least people who are enough to have opinions on typesetting) while the web is usually the result of middle management and marketing seeing you as the dumb thing keeping some metric too low.

Magazines are their own thing although typically this does apply to the actual articles themselves; Someone who knows what they're doing lays them out.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by 0xEFF » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

booleandilemma wrote: post #72

danShumway wrote: post #56

I want to hecking scream. The point of the original website in this chain was not that you couldn't do media queries, or that all of your designs had to be unstyled. It was a gosh-darned satire that showed that even if you did literally nothing , your website would still be responsive and readable and load fast. The fact that it did nothing, that it was just a completely unstyled HTML page was the reason that the jok…

This one has a dark theme though.

And a license.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by CodeHz » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

It's not perfect, since the scrollbar is keep while while the content has dark background... maybe you need a

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by ath92 » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

u801e wrote: post #102

kuschku wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. Do you like 400 nits of #ffffff right into your eyeballs? No? Me neither. The alternative is absolute darkness with extremely bright text, which in turn makes it unreadable (if you have astigmatism as I do) and literally causes pain due to the high contrast. Nothing in nature has such an extreme contrast. The only reason anyone would ever use full contrast is if they have a shitty 6-bit…

> Nothing in nature has such an extreme contrast. What about black text on white pages in an actual hardback book? But since you referred to nature, what about zebras?

Neither zebras nor white pages in a hardback book emit light, they only reflect it.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by enriquto » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

Considerably worse than the masterful original. I guess it is satire of the earlier (and also worse) "improvements"?

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by kyledrake » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

Just going to leave this here https://elementcss.neocities.org/

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by kuschku » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:08 PM UTC

jschwartzi wrote: post #107

kuschku wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a good monitor, the color contrast between #ffffff and #000000 is far beyond the contrast possible in nature. No reflective material can reach those colors or that contrast. That color contrast is perfect for a game, a movie or an image. But you don't want the feeling of something as bright as looking into the fucking sun mixed with the darkness of the deepest starless night. That's just painful, both in light mod…

Yeah definitely. And also be sure to switch all your keys on your keyboard to a hardwood. I prefer mahogany for its bright clicks and depth of response versus the equivalent plastic keycaps.

If you use these high contrast colors, you will break it for users on good displays. That means potential investors, people on iPhones, people on expensive samsung phones.

Those are the people you usually want as customers. And you're making your website painful for them. That's a decision you can make, but don't be surprised if you'll fail with that attitude.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by reacharavindh » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 5:08 PM UTC

UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #94

rkangel wrote: post #7

From " http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ " which is one up the chain: > A little less contrast WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. To give this person credit they have at least chosen some sensible values, rather than gone with something that was just about enough on an expensive graphic designer high-contrast monitor and then not tested it on anything else. Leaving the rest of us squinting to try and read text or manua…

https://contrastrebellion.com/ More high-contrast options exist then Black foreground on a White background. I'm not disagreeing with your point, I loathe grey on grey sites. Being visually impaired nothing makes me rage-quit your site quicker if my DarkReader extension can't unfuck a site. I'm posting https://contrastrebellion.com/ so all the replies and followup conversations can see it too.

That is one awful website to read on mobile safari. The scroll bar is hijacked to make the text unreadable - how ironic!? May be some should make scrollhijackrebellion.com ;-)