DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by senko » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 12:48 PM UTC

DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
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Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by Luyt » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:05 PM UTC

I noticed a while ago that a collegue and I got different results when we googled for our company name, but I didn't know that it's now happening in such an extent.

I've added DuckDuck to my FireFox search engines.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by yanw » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:06 PM UTC

This assumes that 'filter bubble' is something more than a nonsense term.

There is little difference between personalization and the relevance of search results.

How would you go about ranking then? alphabetically?! it's a matter of tuning the relevance 'dials' and it's all in early stages so a solution to this imaginary problems is more research and not to create bullshit terminology in order to sell some books.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by TheBranca18 » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:08 PM UTC

yanw wrote: post #3

This assumes that 'filter bubble' is something more than a nonsense term. There is little difference between personalization and the relevance of search results. How would you go about ranking then? alphabetically?! it's a matter of tuning the relevance 'dials' and it's all in early stages so a solution to this imaginary problems is more research and not to create bullshit terminology in order to sell some books.

Most people don't realize that Google and other companies are doing this. That's my main problem. It's not about selling books in my mind as much as it about communicating why something is in a search list for person A vs. person B. I don't want my Internet censored.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by ThomPete » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:09 PM UTC

It is the ultimate quest for serendipity.

If you filter by what you want you don't get what you didn't know you wanted.

I will give DDG the benefit of the doubt and try it out for a couple of months.

Starting now.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by the-kenny » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:09 PM UTC

The first example is totally borked. They first search for "climate change" (notice the ") and then search for climate change (without quotes). Of course the search engine shows different results for different queries.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by wisty » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:10 PM UTC

Luyt wrote: post #2

I noticed a while ago that a collegue and I got different results when we googled for our company name, but I didn't know that it's now happening in such an extent. I've added DuckDuck to my FireFox search engines.

I've set it as default on Chrome. Maybe google is better - I'll get more python libraries and less news stories about sheep (or Darwin laureates) getting swallowed by pythons, but I can live with that. Besides, I'm pretty good at typing "google" if I need it.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by epi0Bauqu » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:11 PM UTC

the-kenny wrote: post #6

The first example is totally borked. They first search for "climate change" (notice the ") and then search for climate change (without quotes). Of course the search engine shows different results for different queries.

I didn't notice that, but will fix ASAP. The base source of that image was from: http://www.thefilterbubble.com/what-is-the-internet-hiding-l...

Update: the quotes vs no quotes doesn't change the top results on Bing (at least for this search).

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by epi0Bauqu » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:12 PM UTC

wisty wrote: post #7

Luyt wrote: post #2

I noticed a while ago that a collegue and I got different results when we googled for our company name, but I didn't know that it's now happening in such an extent. I've added DuckDuck to my FireFox search engines.

I've set it as default on Chrome. Maybe google is better - I'll get more python libraries and less news stories about sheep (or Darwin laureates) getting swallowed by pythons, but I can live with that. Besides, I'm pretty good at typing "google" if I need it.

You can just add !g to the end (or beg) of your search and it will take you right there.

Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble

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Post by yanw » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 1:12 PM UTC

TheBranca18 wrote: post #4

yanw wrote: post #3

This assumes that 'filter bubble' is something more than a nonsense term. There is little difference between personalization and the relevance of search results. How would you go about ranking then? alphabetically?! it's a matter of tuning the relevance 'dials' and it's all in early stages so a solution to this imaginary problems is more research and not to create bullshit terminology in order to sell some books.

Most people don't realize that Google and other companies are doing this. That's my main problem. It's not about selling books in my mind as much as it about communicating why something is in a search list for person A vs. person B. I don't want my Internet censored.

People don't realize many things about search engine from indices to ranking algorithms, they do realize however that a search engine is to return the most relevant results for them and that is were personalization/relevance fits in.