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An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by FDSGSG »

kenneth wrote: post #81
camillomiller wrote: post #38

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I do not agree. These are photos posted publicly on Instagram or Facebook. Anyone could see them. This website just aggregates them, but there's technically a live link to these pictures. And no, the fact that someone uploads them to a service whose ToS they have accepted makes no difference. You're posting something publicly? To me that's explicit consent that you want people to see them. If those pics were behind e…

Alright then, for the sake of argument then how would you feel if there was a website named "wikipedo" where people take the normal photos of children posted on social media and aggregate them thusly with a vastly different intent?

That would be confusing, what would we call enthusiastic wikipedia users then?

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by 411111111111111 »

monsieurbanana wrote: post #114
Quarrelsome wrote: post #100

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well these are tears of the RIAA and MPAA aren't they? Its not like we solved those problems beyond DMCA takedowns, a legal hammer that was ineffective at scale or new services that made copyright infringement the worser product. We exist in the age of information and the age of mash ups, there is nothing _technically_ stopping these people from doing this so to do so we need to _create_ something to do this. Otherwi…

On this website, downvotes for disagreement are allowed. Take a deep breath, downvotes don't hurt.

And before anyone says differently, this is pgs stance on it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by oblio »

croon wrote: post #12
oblio wrote: post #8

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You have the causality the other way. Society was always idiocracy, it was just obscured. If anything, the internet is one of our hopes for improving things. But change is rarely short and painless.

The main question I'm struggling with is whether "neutral" people get more or less stupid by being exposed to the previously obscured idiocy (or deliberate nonsense). The jury is still out on that. What has been clear over the last decade or two is that facts, reason and logic doesn't automatically win in the "marketplace of ideas".

In Romanian we say: "don't act stupid, you risk staying that way". So the folk wisdom would be that neutral people do get stupid. It makes sense, the brain is like a muscle, if you don't exercise it, it withers (at least a bit).

And despite how we feel about it, the solution will probably be what we've always done: we promote what we think are good things and demote what we think are bad things (i.e. if you want to take it to the extreme, you can call it censorship, propaganda, etc.). The internet is also slowly getting filtered and I don't think we're losing much for it. Most of the stuff out there is garbage, as you've noticed.

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

furyg3 wrote: post #88
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #73

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If you look at this hypothetical case without prejudice, the only difference with your photo appearing on a news site, in someone's post on social media, as a picture on some forum or just being uploaded to image sharing service is for-profit nature of the usage.

No. Even nonprofits (see Wikipedia) have to follow strict rules about licensing images or face legal consequences. They also do a good job of policing this on-upload, something that a site like Wikifeed does not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy

Exactly, this is what I'm talking about! To be clear, I'm not saying the case in question is fine. If you condemn usage of your image in porn magazines, you should condemn it in other situations as well, as long as the for-profit nature of the usage is not the only thing that bothers you.

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by toyg »

adventured wrote: post #36
janpot wrote: post #9

It's so refreshing how this article doesn't try to impose an opinion on me. It really engages me to think about the matter and form my own.

The article reads like something that I might have seen online 15-20 years ago, before everyone went batshit crazy. It's nice. She covers it very matter-of-fact without trying to force the reader to view it or react to it in a particular way. It's the hallmark of someone with a noble intellect in this day and age.

WikiFeet itself feels very "old internet": a basic site about a very narrow niche, user-powered, with no pretensions and no hope of making any money.

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by salex89 »

kthartic wrote: post #117
salex89 wrote: post #10

Haha, not what I expected to find on HN this morning, but I'm glad I did. Some human quirks are fun. Maybe because this guy doesn't look intimidating.

Where did you see a photo of this guy? I can’t seem to see it in the article

I meant "seem" or "feel". Lost in translation.

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by spiralx »

ewwhite wrote: post #22
severak_cz wrote: post #7

For every weird niche hobby there is a guy who is creating literal database of something with almost scientific precision. Mix it with rule 34 and you got things like WikiFeet or some Czech site which is literal database of nude scenes in our whole cinema history (sorted by movies, actresses and director including screencaps of course).

I mean, mrskin.com

I was expected it to be like Wikifeet but for foreskins lol.

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by Quarrelsome »

411111111111111 wrote: post #122
monsieurbanana wrote: post #114

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On this website, downvotes for disagreement are allowed. Take a deep breath, downvotes don't hurt.

And before anyone says differently, this is pgs stance on it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658691

it greys the comment out though and makes it less discoverable though.

For example, the issue is that it permits "tyranny by majority". Imagine, if you will a 1950s America where people are trying to post about civil rights and being downvoted into invisibility.

I just want to encourage the art of _not_ pressing either button. Its fine for things to exist that you don't agree with.

Re: An interview with the man who keeps uploading my feet to WikiFeet

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

quotemstr wrote: post #84
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #68

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>You're posting something publicly? To me that's explicit consent that you want people to see them. To see them where I posted them . Pictures are an intellectual property of the author, if a person wants other people to spread them, he/she needs to explicitly set the allowing license. Copyright, fair use and such is a hot and nuanced topic, but the bottom line here is that personal pictures getting shared is not wha…

> Pictures are an intellectual property of the author, if a person wants other people to spread them, he/she needs to explicitly set the allowing license. It's more complicated than that. What actions require a license? Nobody needs a license to create a hyperlink. The concept of a "link license" was a big subject of debate in the 1990s, but after much hand-wringing and heated discussion, we converged on a permission…

>Now let's suppose for the sake of argument (and without loss of generality) that this foot fetish site were just a list of hyperlinks to publicly available foot pictures in their original context. I suspect the author of the article (and a lot of other people) would still be squicked out by the foot-fetishist link-aggregator site

Yep, what furyg3 said. I always think about cases like that from a creator perspective. If I'm a painter, I probably sell my work, so it's in my interest that every usage lead back to a canonical place where I expect to make sales/build following/communicate with fans. So reposting a picture and posting a link to a said place I chose are absolutely different things.

There's always fair use, which should cover things like education, citation, etc. That's a different topic.

And don't get me wrong, copyright system is broken and rotten to the core, but some of the concerns on which it builds are perfectly reasonable.

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