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Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by koolba »

dogma1138 wrote: post #76
neaden wrote: post #8

So as someone who cooks a lot, and gets frustrated by long blog like posts that lots of recipes have this day, this website is probably even less useful for me. The tagging system isn't being used correctly, Ham Sandwich is tagged with Banana for some reason. Speaking of Ham sandwich some of the recipes are just way too simple, this just tells me how to assemble a sandwich which I don't think anyone really needs. Tho…

Buy a few good cooking books. Far better and more useful than hunting on the internet. And most importantly start your own recipe book.

If my old cooking book had as much fluff as SEO recipe sites, it’d take more space than a Brittanica set.

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by Half-Shot »

vanilla-almond wrote: post #58
peter_retief wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it really does need some work. There is a need for a simple well curated recipe site though, there is always lots of interest.

" There is a need for a simple well curated recipe site though, there is always lots of interest " Does BBC Food count? It's ad-free if you are in the UK (possibly not if you're outside the UK). It has a wealth of recipes and food-related content: https://www.bbc.co.uk/food

Honestly this is what I use most of the time because it's hit the mark nearly 99% of the time. Quite a variety of recipies, and actually the comment section is genuinely full of useful information!

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by fordsmith »

samdafi wrote: post #73
aimor wrote: post #62

In general I've given up on recipe aggregate sites. I have to be half-familiar with the dish just to fix all the things wrong with the recipes I find. In my opinion, divorcing the recipe from the curator is a huge mistake and no amount of user reviews overcomes this. What I really want to see are the recipes that some specific person actually makes in their daily life. Not icons who publish more recipes under their n…

Shameless plug but I tried to do that at https://www.sammakesfood.com . I made videos for the recipes too, but you do not have to watch those. It was a hobby project (not monetized) so no garbage. If somebody did this with maybe 30-75 mainstays and added search, is that kinda what you’re looking for? I stopped because I wasn’t sure if it would help anybody. My family enjoyed the videos during the pandemic as an alter…

This seems like something I absolutely need, especially as a college student. I don't know how to cook good healthy meals, but I want to learn how (especially cheaply if I can).

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by 7sidedmarble »

challengly wrote: post #56
cratermoon wrote: post #19

Isn't this just https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26419717 reskinned?

Probably literally using their source code, but not linking back to it? https://github.com/lukesmithxyz/based.cooking

>SoyDevs DESTROYED Epic Style by Based Cooking

Sounds like a great guy to have a conversation with

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by 7sidedmarble »

linsomniac wrote: post #59

Maybe 6 months ago a previous discussion here led me to Paprika, an Android/iOS app, and I've been loving it. It is a paid app, $5, IIRC. The killer feature is that you can be on a recipe in the browser and do "Share", pick Paprika, and it'll grab, almost without fail, the recipe from within the pages and pages of prose that most recipes have these days. I also use the sharing so my wife has access to the same recipe…

I've been using paprika for a while but switched to whisk.

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by samdafi »

interestica wrote: post #96
samdafi wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shameless plug but I tried to do that at https://www.sammakesfood.com . I made videos for the recipes too, but you do not have to watch those. It was a hobby project (not monetized) so no garbage. If somebody did this with maybe 30-75 mainstays and added search, is that kinda what you’re looking for? I stopped because I wasn’t sure if it would help anybody. My family enjoyed the videos during the pandemic as an alter…

I love the simplicity of this. So readable.

Thanks! I was going for no frills so I’m glad it came out that way for you.

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by cratermoon »

neaden wrote: post #26
cratermoon wrote: post #12

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Recipes cannot be copyrighted.

The recipe itself can't be, but you can't just copy and paste recipe text from one website to another.

The basic directions (beat egg, stir in vanilla, etc) are part of the recipe. The courts have ruled that there must be substantial content to make it copyrightable. That, along with ads and the need to "drive engagement" is why most recipe sites have long articles around the list of ingredients.

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by cratermoon »

D13Fd wrote: post #27
cratermoon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recipes cannot be copyrighted.

Wrong. Lists of ingredients cannot be copyrighted. But the accompanying explanation can be copyrighted if it is substantial enough: https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html Beyond the recipes themselves, the collection may be copyrighted. The photos accompanying the recipes are also copyrighted.

The basic directions (beat egg, stir in vanilla, etc) are part of the recipe. The courts have ruled that there's need to be substantial content to make it copyrightable. That, along with ads and the need to "drive engagement" is why most recipe sites have long articles around the list of ingredients.

"A recipe is a statement of the ingredients and procedure required for making a dish of food. A mere listing of ingredients or contents, or a simple set of directions, is uncopyrightable. As a result, the Office cannot register recipes consisting of a set of ingredients and a process for preparing a dish." https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ33.pdf

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by samdafi »

fordsmith wrote: post #113
samdafi wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shameless plug but I tried to do that at https://www.sammakesfood.com . I made videos for the recipes too, but you do not have to watch those. It was a hobby project (not monetized) so no garbage. If somebody did this with maybe 30-75 mainstays and added search, is that kinda what you’re looking for? I stopped because I wasn’t sure if it would help anybody. My family enjoyed the videos during the pandemic as an alter…

This seems like something I absolutely need, especially as a college student. I don't know how to cook good healthy meals, but I want to learn how (especially cheaply if I can).

If it helps at all, my advice is to pick one approachable dish you love to eat and learn to cook it. Do it again and again and get good at that one dish, adjusting it each time as you eat it and think “oh this part could be better I’ll focus on that next time”

By the time you are good at that dish you will have invariably learned skills that transfer to related dishes, as well as how to taste and adjust. So you pick the next to learn. To make a product analogy, it’s vaguely like “Crossing the Chasm”.

Learning to cook this way is wonderful because you begin to see how dishes come together and start to imagine your own recipes! Whereas if you cook a new dish every time, you get spread a little thin and lots of cooking remains frustratingly “magical.”

Re: Opensource.cooking: A simple, bloat-free cooking site

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Post by owyn »

samdafi wrote: post #73
aimor wrote: post #62

In general I've given up on recipe aggregate sites. I have to be half-familiar with the dish just to fix all the things wrong with the recipes I find. In my opinion, divorcing the recipe from the curator is a huge mistake and no amount of user reviews overcomes this. What I really want to see are the recipes that some specific person actually makes in their daily life. Not icons who publish more recipes under their n…

Shameless plug but I tried to do that at https://www.sammakesfood.com . I made videos for the recipes too, but you do not have to watch those. It was a hobby project (not monetized) so no garbage. If somebody did this with maybe 30-75 mainstays and added search, is that kinda what you’re looking for? I stopped because I wasn’t sure if it would help anybody. My family enjoyed the videos during the pandemic as an alter…

Watched one video, and the recipes are good and the video production values are really high, and yet the views are really low. I have no great advice on how to fix that, all the ingredients (ha) seem to be there. I guess having watched a bunch of other food videos it seems like the gimmicks come first and the basics come second? Like babish with the TV food reproduction and emmy with the vintage MRE's. In the great war with the search machines there are few winners.
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