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Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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Why isn't this actionable? We are currently making significant public and private investments into electric cars based on their reduced emissions. Why not also invest in cycling infrastructure (beyond the very limited capacity that most US cities are currently doing)?

Because most US cities are not compact and flat as Copenhagen

ebikes, though a bit more expensive, make getting over the hills in even SF doable

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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That's great. Assuming the following: - Your commute is sufficiently short - You have facilities to shower and dress at work - You have sufficient time to shower and dress at work - You don't have to bring kids or sizable cargo - Weather is sufficiently good - You're sufficiently healthy

- You live somewhere warm enough to bike year-round.

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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Why isn't this actionable? We are currently making significant public and private investments into electric cars based on their reduced emissions. Why not also invest in cycling infrastructure (beyond the very limited capacity that most US cities are currently doing)?

There is no evidence to suggest millions of bicycle commuters are waiting in the wings for more green paint.

When it comes to transportation infrastructure, you certainly don't want to plan the future based on apparent present demand. Los Angeles vs Copenhagen is a great comparison of the results of continually building for what people seem to want "now" (in the former case) versus building to create a better future.

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why isn't this actionable? We are currently making significant public and private investments into electric cars based on their reduced emissions. Why not also invest in cycling infrastructure (beyond the very limited capacity that most US cities are currently doing)?

Because most US cities are not compact and flat as Copenhagen

eBikes definitely help with the topography issues ( Seattle , Pittsburgh ). You still have the sprawl and separated land use patterns in a lot of cities though.

Of course summer commuting in Houston or Phoenix is going to suck no matter what your bike is

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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That's great. Assuming the following: - Your commute is sufficiently short - You have facilities to shower and dress at work - You have sufficient time to shower and dress at work - You don't have to bring kids or sizable cargo - Weather is sufficiently good - You're sufficiently healthy

- You live somewhere warm enough to bike year-round.

I rode year round in Chicago. When weather was too extreme and unreasonable I took public transportation.

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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I don’t get it where is the emission coming from bicycle trips?

I guess you have to eat a bit more if you ride more, I certainly notice when I bike to work (5mi each way, 300ft climb) that I need to eat a bit more food. Certainly no where near the energy of a car though but its not zero. Assuming you want to maintain your weight.

That’s a strong assumption. I for one wouldn’t eat less if I stopped biking. I commute to work, do shopping and go everywhere by bike throughout the year. I don’t own a car.

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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The headline claim as laid out in the article: > we found that emissions from cycling can be more than 30 times lower for each trip than driving a fossil fuel car, and about ten times lower than driving an electric one Assuming we’re comparing single occupant passenger vehicles to bicycles (incl. e-bikes), this seems fairly self-evident and hardly actionable. > We observed around 4,000 people living in London, Antwer…

I don’t get it where is the emission coming from bicycle trips?

The bike does need energy to move.

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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I wonder if telecommuting like many are doing right now trumps everything .

Unfortunately, no. Surprisingly, telecommuters appear to drive more than office workers:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09658...

Re: Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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There is no evidence to suggest millions of bicycle commuters are waiting in the wings for more green paint.

I am. Cycling in the city is dangerous.

Aren't there studies that show the health benefits out weigh the dangers? I think the problem is more that it feels more dangerous and is, as a result, is often quite stressful.
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