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Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by simplecto » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:13 PM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #67

mikepurvis wrote: post #50

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> The diagram alone is more than enough of an argument to dissuade me from giving this a shot right now - it's simply too complicated and too much to manage for the amount of time I can dedicate to it. Yeah. I have a basic home server and I feel like even with fairly modest needs/desires (Jellyfin, Deluge, Zoneminder, some kind of file syncing, I gave up on photos because my whole family uses Google for that), it's h…

I used to have a portainer centric setup.. now I just use docker-compose directly. I have my compose split into different files with a makefile to keep things "make start" simple. Highly recommend.

This is my setup. Compose and Makefiles

Ben running like this for 3 years. No fuss.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by thesimon » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:14 PM UTC

Macha wrote: post #107

annoyingnoob wrote: post #83

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_doctrine

Use borg or other encrypted backup tool (Restic is also recommended by others in this thread). rsync.net is my offsite backup. Doesn't matter what anyone demands of them, all they ever see is an encrypted blob.

I have been using Duplicati, but

>Backup archives are mountable as userspace filesystems for easy interactive backup examination and restores (e.g. by using a regular file manager).

looks like a really nice feature of borg. Thanks.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:15 PM UTC

divbzero wrote: post #120

belval wrote: post #68

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I think the diagram gives a skewed view of how hard this actually is. I run a very similar setup only my VPS is only a proxy for my home server and it requires very little maintenance. I run everything with docker-compose and I haven't had to work on my setup at all this year and only about 8 hours in 2020 to setup the Wireguard network to replace the ssh tunnels I was using previously for VPS -> server communication…

Yes, and many popular applications are prepackaged as one-click apps by cloud providers like Vultr [1] or Digital Ocean [2]. [1]: https://www.vultr.com/features/one-click-apps/ [2]: https://marketplace.digitalocean.com You can also enable automatic backups for your servers.

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Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by BlueTemplar » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:15 PM UTC

A year ago, I tried to get into it, but : - My ISP and Pihole didn't have proper IPv6 support. - Even worse, Pihole requires phoning home to Github for updates... which I wanted to block with Pihole! So I've shelved this idea for now...

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by danbruder » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:18 PM UTC

Theres an opportunity here for someone to build a "platform" that makes this all plug-n-play; like what the apple/google app stores have done but where the end user has control.

Something along the lines of someone buys some hardware with this platform on it and gets a gui that lets me install "apps" on top of it.

Personally, I've got a home setup that is on its way to what the op has; but I think there's demand from non-techy folks to get off the big co's apps and onto privacy focused ones that they control.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by paulryanrogers » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

danbruder wrote: post #135

Theres an opportunity here for someone to build a "platform" that makes this all plug-n-play; like what the apple/google app stores have done but where the end user has control. Something along the lines of someone buys some hardware with this platform on it and gets a gui that lets me install "apps" on top of it. Personally, I've got a home setup that is on its way to what the op has; but I think there's demand from…

Like Sandstorm?

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by zolland » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

clairity wrote: post #38

FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #4

The diagram alone is more than enough of an argument to dissuade me from giving this a shot right now - it's simply too complicated and too much to manage for the amount of time I can dedicate to it. BUT - I'm really thankful for people who keep posting and sharing these sorts of projects; they're the ones iterating the process for the rest of us who need something a bit more turn-key. I'm excited to see this eventua…

i've actually daydreamed about starting a computing appliance company that would make a variety of services plug and play for consumers and small businesses, from email to storage, to networking, to security, and to smart home. it's actually the direction apple is headed, but they're encumbered by the innovator's dilemma, which leaves an opportunity for an upstart. google and facebook are similarly too focused on adt…

I've wanted to make something like this too. After years of iteration, my self hosted setup is now completely automated and the automation itself is super simple and organized. It would be pretty simple to setup a simple web app that allows users to simply apply the same automation steps onto their own VPSs. Hardest part would be setting up a secure process for managing user secrets to be honest.

Business wise, I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay for just the automation... in reality you don't use it very often. Could be interesting to try (re)selling tightly knit VPSs, more advanced automation features or support.

I think this solution still captures the self hosted ideology while also providing some cool value. I see people reinventing the wheel all the time while trying to automate self hosted processes... but then again maybe that's why we do it, we like the adventure!

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by SavantIdiot » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

imwillofficial wrote: post #42

SavantIdiot wrote: post #22

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Same here. Over the past 20 years (25?) I've tried numerous times to self-host email and the issues I had with spam and blacklisting were too involved for me to resolve, and only got deeper. Definitely not something to attempt casually.

No need to self host email, just use your own domain. That way if a provider gives you lip, you move on. It’s the email address itself that is valuable, the emails can be backed up.

That's true. I already host my domains with the requisite DKIM/SPF CNAME entries, and I supposed I could just export the mailboxes periodically.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by fsflover » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

danbruder wrote: post #135

Theres an opportunity here for someone to build a "platform" that makes this all plug-n-play; like what the apple/google app stores have done but where the end user has control. Something along the lines of someone buys some hardware with this platform on it and gets a gui that lets me install "apps" on top of it. Personally, I've got a home setup that is on its way to what the op has; but I think there's demand from…

Something like FreedomBox? https://www.freedombox.org/

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC » Wed, Apr 07, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

> Every last weekend of the month, I will manually backup all the data to Blu-ray discs. Not once, but twice. One copy goes to a safe storage space at home and the other one ends up at a completely different location.

The author has a lot more patience than I do. From their description of the NAS, they have at least 2TB capacity. At 50 GB per disk that is 40 Blu-Ray discs to reach 2TB and 80 discs to do it twice. There is no way I would spend a weekend very month burning and verifying 80 Blu-ray discs.