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Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

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Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

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You just described my job to a T. I'm a systems analyst at a university. This was a big, demanding job when I first started. But after being here for 2 years, I've automated a lot of the complicated stuff. So now most routine tasks that took the other guy a week takes me about 15 minutes. To be fair though, the other guy was *really bad*. Like, couldn't even open IIS manager and restart a single website, bad. The pay…

Ill echo this, (am also a SA at a mid-size US university) I am completely content with how slow my job moves. We have real, actual deadlines a few times a year. The bare minimum earns you praise, I think Ive done a month's worth of work since last march which has been wonderful for my physical health. Nearly every 4-year offers unconditional tuition remission. You will be underpaid. Id stay in this position forever if I didnt happen to dislike the location as much as I do.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#462

I have no interest in telling you what to do as an individual but this thread and all of the people that seem on board with this is what drives me crazy about most of the places I've worked. I have the hardest time getting anything done because of the sea of people trying to find ways not to do any work. Is this not abuse of privilege? Do you all not hear the stories of people working multiple jobs and still not bein…

I'm not sure a moral argument here achieves anything because with every example there are exceptions on both the employer and employee. If you can leverage your skill for a job with higher pay and less hours that seems fine. Employers outsource to get equivalent work for less cost for example.

Speed is one reason startups win and its because the incumbents cannot move fast enough. When you've worked at a company that takes 9 months to deliver basic features you see that.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#463
One of the challenges you will face will be being good enough to be able to work independently and without much oversight, while staying out of the leadership/management tracks.

You will have to learn to walk the line of being very reliable, but not over-delivering.

This is important because I think you have two primary options:

1. Aim for a full time low compensation with a job that you can easily do in 10 hours a week. You tend to still have to be "available" for meetings and stuff throughout the week, so this is less ideal.

2. Aim for a part time high compensation job and negotiate your availability/workload. For example, aim for the top end of your salary, but ask to work only 2-3 days a week for 40-60% of the salary. This is hard to get. Not a lot of places will go for this; they want team players working more than 40 hours a week. Some places do, you just have to ask, and be able to actually sell them on the idea.

The real answer is 'passive income', but that's a different ballgame. If you're just trying to work less, I would do one of the above (and I have done both personally).

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#464
Wow I've been a software engineer nearly 15 years. When I was younger and had more passion in my career I would come to this site then I realised tech was largely full of annoying people with big egos and most of us spend our careers endlessly rebuilding the same shit in slightly different ways and it's quite rare to actually make big money from startups / equity and soul destroying trying to do it. I find it's also getting harder to avoid difficult ethical positions and compromising your own values with many of today's roles in the tech industry.

A repost of this thread on Twitter caught my attention.

I now work in a software job I'm much more comfortable with having gone through a number of much more technically challenging and 'successful' roles. I basically took over as the sole developer for a tiny family software business. The pay is not quite as good but once I'd proven myself I got to do things how I wanted and am respected by the family that run the company. I rarely now work long hours, often completing tasks in less time than I estimate they'll take and occasionally taking time out of my working day for myself. I don't feel remotely guilty for doing so - it's a role where the expectations and bar are much lower than I'm used to. Regardless I've delivered several sizable paid projects, usually about one a year while doing odd bits of support and development for the company's existing clients. It's the closest thing to running a business of my own without taking on the hassle and risk of employing people and managing the books etc. So I'd say it's a pretty good deal. However I am still beholden to some slightly idiotic decisions our customers make and have to deal with them directly but I don't mind - the variety is part of what attracted me to the job. I get involved in everything from pre-sales, producing quotes through to delivery and occasional support of the software.

It's hard to find a job role like the one I'm in but I think the starting point has to be that you have an idea of what you're after. The more you consider what opportunities there are that are not the usual tech nonsense you start to see there are definitely options out there.

I would say you need to have some motivation and contentment in your job even if it is fairly minor things otherwise you will probably end up depressed and start to subconsciously sabotage your own life and career. If you start to feel guilty about how little you do that's a good sign you've swung too far the other way.

All that said I would say good luck to anyone taking this path. Ultimately it has left me much happier to give up the aspirations of becoming CTO of some fast growing company and chill out doing my own thing. I spend time with my friends, family and my wife without the grinding stress of a high-flying job and the constant worry that I'm going to be called on in the middle of the night or work late or a whole weekend without any warning.

Life your fucking lives people.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

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This is an awesome question. I hope someone has good strategies for you. Life should be spent doing the things you find worthwhile, and the fact is, not all of those things are monetizable. Given how esteem- and success driven HN as a platform is... you might not get too many ideas since I suppose people want to maintain their "hireable" status. Success and "loving your job" are more or less empty phrases unless you…

After 20 years of working and a sense of genuine burnout, I landed a "Dream Job" a few months ago where I'm doing tech leadership at a mid-size non-profit. We have a small familial team, a set of worthwhile and genuinely beloved public services and mission of doing good. There's still politics and revenue issues and all the sorts of stuff that a go along with any company, but it's a lot less aggressive. Work-life balance and diversity are genuinely respected. I'm busy, but it's not crazy. In my past I worked on so many gigs for companies I didn't care about or downright disliked. Building tools to grab eyes or sell crap no one needed. Working somewhere with a positive mission is so much more valuable to me than working on a cool tech stack (our stack isn't too bad, but we're not cutting edge either). I feel better about work than I have in a long, long time.

And before anyone asks, no we're not hiring. One tradeoff is that it's a very slow growth environment. We don't have VC funds to burn and our business model is very mature.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#466

Consider: you may become depressed, unfulfilled, and unhappy in this life. I had a position that was around halfway to what you want, government database coding, and I was miserable. I think becoming fully "chilled out" is ideal, because being "half chilled" and half "in-the-hotseat" gave me whiplash a few times. I developed lazy habits over time, my work output suffered, and all that free-time on my hobby wasn't as…

This varies widely by person. Some people - whether they want to or not - define themselves by their work. Other people's priorities lie elsewhere. It sounds like the OP is of the latter type, though it's hard to know for sure until you try it.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#467
I made an account to answer this question.

I work at a major bank, >50k employees, this is where you want to be if you don't want to do anything. Most bank managers and executives are old, print out an excel sheet and use a ruler old. The bar is also set so low at most banks that with 2-3 hours of work you'll get stellar reviews and managers will think you're a god.

Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#468

I have no interest in telling you what to do as an individual but this thread and all of the people that seem on board with this is what drives me crazy about most of the places I've worked. I have the hardest time getting anything done because of the sea of people trying to find ways not to do any work. Is this not abuse of privilege? Do you all not hear the stories of people working multiple jobs and still not bein…

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Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?

#470

> The pandemic made me realize that I do not care about working anymore. The software I build is useless. This has happened to a lot of people and I am wondering what that's about. It's happened to me also. I realized my job is useless and the primary benefit goes to the sales guy who sells my services. Did the pandemic cause this? If so, how?

Not going into the office daily shatters the illusion that you are doing something important. When you are in the office everyone looks busy and self important.
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