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IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by tsar9x »

mumblemumble wrote: post #25
jen20 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some additional anecdata: on my maxed out 16” (admittedly Intel) Mac, IntelliJ/PyCharm/Goland/Webstorm are all quicker to start than Spacemacs. I haven’t tried Doom Emacs but don’t get the impression it would be much quicker.

One of the main selling points of doom emacs is that it starts up more quickly than spacemacs.

It starts quickly because everything is lazy loaded, if you open project it will start language server, start indexing etc, It's definitely not much faster than IntelliJ, but functionality is still behind.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by Macha »

Tuna-Fish wrote: post #24
KronisLV wrote: post #18

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> It is a memory hog This is different from my experience, when working on Java projects with a few thousand source files and about 1 million SLoC. Eclipse - had some problems with the autocomplete being slow to open, IDE was overall unresponsive and used around 2 GB of RAM NetBeans - the cache folder filled up weirdly quickly (though that was NetBeans 8.2 not the new Apache NetBeans), but the IDE worked fine with ar…

> JetBrains - project was slow to open (+while indexing), but the IDE performs okay with 0.5 - 1 GB of RAM usage (though more needed when running/debugging) Just to be specific: Is this your experience just running the IDE at default settings, or did you increase the JVM heap size for it and had no effect? If you run it at default settings, the memory footprint will stay My experience on this is that it's a great ide…

It's also terrible to overdo it. Had a coworker having issues with 4GB on a project and he bumped it to 16GB (on a 32GB MBP) which resulted in epicly long GC pauses.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by tsar9x »

LeonM wrote: post #30
tsar9x wrote: post #3

Hopefully they will support Wayland in next version.

Wayland support is pretty terrible, but usable. I use it for my daily dev work. - Some graphical intensive parts (such as the markdown preview renderer) cause crashes. Turning preview off remedies this. - HiDPI situation is garbage as usual (but that's a Linux thing in general). IntelliJ renders at half resolution so it's not as crisp as it can be, but it's perfectly usable. - The 'everything is a window' design choi…

You are running Xwayland not wayland.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by Macha »

fctorial wrote: post #19
lumost wrote: post #12

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They really need to update the default memory footprint. The 750MB default isn't enough for any projects these days and they don't exactly make it obvious how to update it to 2-4GB.

You can use the action "change memory settings".

Does that have a UI now or just open up the launch flags in a text buffer still?

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by Semaphor »

LeonM wrote: post #30
tsar9x wrote: post #3

Hopefully they will support Wayland in next version.

Wayland support is pretty terrible, but usable. I use it for my daily dev work. - Some graphical intensive parts (such as the markdown preview renderer) cause crashes. Turning preview off remedies this. - HiDPI situation is garbage as usual (but that's a Linux thing in general). IntelliJ renders at half resolution so it's not as crisp as it can be, but it's perfectly usable. - The 'everything is a window' design choi…

> you cannot click on any IntelliJ instance if _one_ of them has a window open

Does anyone know why they do that? It’s pretty annoying even without wayland as I regularly have DataGrip, 2-3 Rider instances, and WebStorm open.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by xxs »

KronisLV wrote: post #18
victor106 wrote: post #8

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It works great if you give it enough memory. It is a memory hog but its the best IDE I've ever used.

> It is a memory hog This is different from my experience, when working on Java projects with a few thousand source files and about 1 million SLoC. Eclipse - had some problems with the autocomplete being slow to open, IDE was overall unresponsive and used around 2 GB of RAM NetBeans - the cache folder filled up weirdly quickly (though that was NetBeans 8.2 not the new Apache NetBeans), but the IDE worked fine with ar…

If you know anything about java you'd know that it has max heap settings that are a command line option. Pretty much all java command line options, GC ergonomics incl are there. I have been using eclipse with an increased heap (and over tuned) since 2006 - modify eclipse.ini

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 2021.1

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Post by jen20 »

tsar9x wrote: post #31
mumblemumble wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the main selling points of doom emacs is that it starts up more quickly than spacemacs.

It starts quickly because everything is lazy loaded, if you open project it will start language server, start indexing etc, It's definitely not much faster than IntelliJ, but functionality is still behind.

Looks somewhat promising as a TextMate replacement for out-of-project editing - I’ll give it a shot.
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