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A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

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Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

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post #33

At this point I think the most important thing is that mob rule is shown to not be the way. I don't know RMS, I don't even know much about RMS... but I have heard enough to know he's not the intolerant idiot he's been made out to be in these hateful letters. There are possibly other very reasonable criticisms for him being removed from his position, but the mob made that impossible to discuss now due to the overwhelm…

“I know nothing about the target, but he must be innocent!”

Yes, that should be our default assumption.

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

#84
post #33

At this point I think the most important thing is that mob rule is shown to not be the way. I don't know RMS, I don't even know much about RMS... but I have heard enough to know he's not the intolerant idiot he's been made out to be in these hateful letters. There are possibly other very reasonable criticisms for him being removed from his position, but the mob made that impossible to discuss now due to the overwhelm…

“I know nothing about the target, but he must be innocent!”

Isn't the core principle of the justice system great?

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

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I am becoming increasingly skeptical whenever I read claims of transphobia being made. To be sure, there are those who seek to undermine the rights of transsexuals, and who seek to pass legislation accordingly. But at the same time I see issues like this one, or the one with J. K. Rowling, and it does not seem so clear cut at the least, and at the worst is bad faith sanctimony.

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

#86
> RMS has (for some reason) tens of thousands of political notes on his website ready to be cherry-picked

It used to be quite okay to share your opinions, political or not, on your website.

It they concern anything that is of importance, some people will find it disagreeable and even offensive.

The fact that we are at a point where expressing this is somehow strange and it’s accepted that you can be subjected to cherry-picking and so should abstain from posting anything that might be considered controversial by some radical;

That’s a horrible place for our society to be in. I’m glad the competing support letter has far more supporters.

I’m tired but not surprised that we have to include politics in everything.

Make software better instead.

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

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post #4

As much as I like rms, I find it very difficult to move past his comments on child pornography[1]. [1] https://stallman.org/notes/2011-mar-jun.html#4_June_2011_(Bo...

likely a risk of being amplify of false accusation. last time there's a dude being false accuse of rape and throw into jail for 10 years

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

#88
post #27

A critique of "A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS": the author claims that Stallman's transphobia is down to Stallman proposing a set of singular, gender-neutral pronouns other than 'they', 'their' and theirs'. Which Stallman indeed does, but if you read on, Stallman also says he'll flat out refuse to use someone's preferred pronouns if they disagree with his scheme. To overlook that in a cr…

RMS' entire post about gender pronouns is weird [1]

> There are those who claim that we have an obligation to refer to someone using whatever pronouns person might choose. I disagree with that position, on grounds of principle and grounds of practice. I think we should respect other people's gender identification, but which pronouns we use for any particular gender identification is a separate matter — a matter of grammar. We do not owe it to anyone to change our grammar according to per wishes.

That's four lines after, saying we should all switch to his personal favourite pronouns:

> Use the elegant gender-neutral pronouns "person", "per" and "pers".

I'd be interested to her when RSM would not use someone's preferred pronoun and instead call them a 'perse'?

1: https://www.stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

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> RMS has (for some reason) tens of thousands of political notes on his website ready to be cherry-picked That would give me literally nightmares, I really don't understand people who write their opinions online (or sharing or liking of other peoples opinions) using their real name. It seems incredibly foolish. Even if you think you are woke enough, chances of getting cancelled in the future seem very high. I have th…

"If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged. "

- Cardinal Richelieu

Re: A Critique of the Open Letter Calling for the Removal of RMS

#90

> The primary author of the open letter, Molly de Blanc, writes on her personal blog: > > There is no space to argue over whether a comment was transphobic – if it hurt a trans person then it is transphobic and it is unacceptable. Ah, postmodernism! Where the words are made up, and intent doesn't matter!

It’s a form of extreme subjectivism that is just not practically feasible in any society.

Postmodernism is truly nefarious.

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