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Just upgraded my side project to both Django 3.2 and Tailwind 2.1 (with Jit enabled). No issues at all, other than some deprecation warnings on some 3rd party packages that will probably be fixed soon.
Looks really good. What made you choose Tailwind over the alternatives?
Any one have any pointers to learn the Django stack from the basics? Any specific video course or a book? "Two Scoops of Django" was recommended to me by someone on HN. I think it is currently being worked on for Django 3. It is on my reading list.
Django is the gold standard for consistently pushing out reliable, well documented open source software without any marketing fluff or other bs. The amount of value the team is adding to the world can't be overstated.
A couple of years ago(2014) I made my first Python website and really enjoyed, however when it was time to put it onlin I quickly discovered that setting up hosting and configuring it was as large a task in getting to know pip, env, unicorn, apache2 and a plethora of other software to host it, is this still the case? Becaue this is what keeps me of hosting websites with python.
This is a niggle, but it one that has been niggling at me for the last few days.
"A couple" means "two," not "several."
I'm more if a flask man myself. Worked with django only when I had to. Maybe I'm wrong?
Honestly, I don't see the point of using Flask anymore. You can set up a Django project and just use a single module with a bunch of view functions, built-in testing and sensible defaults. Done. Not choosing that approach just because it takes a few more MBs on disk or needs a few more KBs of memory is shortsighted, IMO. You can't always predict what a project will end up needing. I'm legitimately asking: why would y…
If you don't really know Django, the learning curve on Flask is a lot shallower. So if you don't need ORMs, models, admin etc. but you just want make those python scripts you wrote callable via a web browser then you'll get version 0.1 out the door a lot sooner with Flask.
Also a lot of Django kind of assumes the ORM as your data store. So if you need to use a primary data store that cannot be accessed via the ORM you lose a lot of what Django has to offer.
That being said, I agree that many 'simple' Flask projects have a tenancy to grow until you have implemented most of Django in Flask anyway.
If anyone is curious I just updated my Docker / Django starter project to use 3.2. It uses Docker Compose + Django + Celery + PostgreSQL + Redis + Webpack + TailwindCSS and it's available at: https://github.com/nickjj/docker-django-example As an aside it's also using TailwindCSS 2.1 with the JIT compiler enabled.
It's a shame that Django's templates are still so bad. You can't just import and call some arbitrary python function. You most likely need to write a template filter or tag [0]. Maybe there's a good reason for this but it just feels like I'm working around a weird issue in the framework. Also, I can't use parentheses inside if statements in a template. It's a strange restriction. I know that Jinja2 -- which is good -…
I think they designed it this way because they assumed that the backend and front developers would be different persons/teams, which makes sense for many projects but for me I'm just a solo dev trying to get work done as fast as possible.
The way Rails does things with ERB makes total sense. DHH himself said that Rails was designed in a way that a single dev can take the framework and build something with it, no teams, no microservices, just plain Rails.
ERB is more dangerous than Django Templates but I like it when a framework doesn't try to protect me from myself.
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A couple of years ago(2014) I made my first Python website and really enjoyed, however when it was time to put it onlin I quickly discovered that setting up hosting and configuring it was as large a task in getting to know pip, env, unicorn, apache2 and a plethora of other software to host it, is this still the case? Becaue this is what keeps me of hosting websites with python.
> A couple of years ago(2014) This is a niggle, but it one that has been niggling at me for the last few days. "A couple" means "two," not "several."
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Just upgraded my side project to both Django 3.2 and Tailwind 2.1 (with Jit enabled). No issues at all, other than some deprecation warnings on some 3rd party packages that will probably be fixed soon.
Looks really good. What made you choose Tailwind over the alternatives?
It's a shame that Django's templates are still so bad. You can't just import and call some arbitrary python function. You most likely need to write a template filter or tag [0]. Maybe there's a good reason for this but it just feels like I'm working around a weird issue in the framework. Also, I can't use parentheses inside if statements in a template. It's a strange restriction. I know that Jinja2 -- which is good -…
This is one of the reasons why I'm moving to Rails. Frontend work is quite hard with templates and most of the community has moved towards Reactjs because of that, which I don't like. I think they designed it this way because they assumed that the backend and front developers would be different persons/teams, which makes sense for many projects but for me I'm just a solo dev trying to get work done as fast as possibl…