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Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Funny comments, but jokes aside, I think we're missing a very obvious reason why he has signal. Mark most likely has contacts that are super high up in governments and coorporations who use signal since they can't trust any other app. People who say that he just tested out competition, I think you guys underestimate his technological knowledge and his resources waaay too much. If he wanted to do that he could have ea…

Maybe. And maybe he’s there because he is a smart lad who knows which products to monitor closely. After all he bought Instagram and WhatsApp for peanuts, and copied the best features of SnapChat.

He wouldn't need to use his real number/name just to do product research though. It would just needlessly confuse any contacts who have his actual number and use signal.

Signal also has nothing he can emulate. Its most meaningful selling point is that it doesn't have an association or integration with a scummy social media company, and people using it for that reason are already lost to Facebook. This is a feature he cannot ever hope to copy.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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post #64

Funny comments, but jokes aside, I think we're missing a very obvious reason why he has signal. Mark most likely has contacts that are super high up in governments and coorporations who use signal since they can't trust any other app. People who say that he just tested out competition, I think you guys underestimate his technological knowledge and his resources waaay too much. If he wanted to do that he could have ea…

Maybe you're right, but considering how easy it is to set up a signal account (Assuming that his threat model is "my phone number will not be leaked", signing up on signal with his personal number seems fine.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

#104
Here's the issue with Silicon Valley companies: Consent

Do you consent to be tracked? Doesn't matter we're going to do it anyway. And we're going to make a s** ton of money off of it.

Do you consent to having your location tracked? Doesn't matter we'll figure it out anyway and we're still going to sell it.

Do you not want an online ordering system? Too bad you're getting one anyway and we'll have robots harass your employees with phone calls.

Move fast and break things simply means do unethical things before regulators catch up to you.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Isn’t a bit of a privacy flaw that signal exposes who uses the app by phone number?

Well, certainly an anonymity flaw. Privacy is different than anonymity. Signal does not purport to provide anonymity. Anyone on the system can check for any other user by knowing their phone number. That tends to be the cost of the convenience of the automatic contact discovery provided by phone based messengers like Signal.

Anonymous messaging is an entire category by itself. It is a much more difficult problem. Fortunately, most people don't need anonymity, most of the time. I really don't care who knows that I am communicating with friends, family or the people related to my business. If anything, I care less that someone might find out I use Signal. If I encounter a situation where I need to be anonymous I can and will have to take special measures for a while. Temporary anonymity is relatively easy. The identity management is a cinch.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you feel the need to make up totally absurd excuses to protect his image? Do you know him personally or has he done something for you? Why do you believe he is a person of integrity?

> Why do you feel the need to make up totally absurd excuses to protect his image? You Americans really have no sense of humour sometimes. Anyway, how exactly is it protecting his image to imply people might want to shoot him? Being widely disliked enough to drive people to that isn't exactly a sign of shining character. It's one of the few things the left and right in American can unite on: hating the zucc.

I think curent zeitgwist is that you can't tell if someone is trolling or is bonkers! Otherwise,-I appreciate it.

Never been to US myself, but fair enough.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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I'll never understand the concept of a privacy focused messaging app that uses your phone number.

Going to signal from other messengers replaces unknown/hard to reason about privacy issues with a single easy to reason about issue. The idea was to do that for the broad group of people using messengers on their phones.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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How dare you suggest Mark Zuckerberg is a hypocrite after said "Privacy is no longer a social norm", and then bought all houses surrounding his one. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/jan/11/facebook-... https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-buys-4-homes...

I don’t see how it is hypocritical. Privacy is not a norm, it is a privilege of people like Zuckerberg.

This is precisely it. Mark is saying that privacy isn't the norm. Similar to how being a billionaire isn't the norm.

However when you have enough money you can afford such privileges.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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post #70

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because 1 is not an opinion but a fact. and probably a fact he probably disagree with, like you people don't care about privacy but it's not exactly his fault. then his job is to capitalize on it. why would he care. you would probably do the same ..

> people don't care about privacy Funny you phrase it like that. When I discuss with people about 'privacy', nobody has anything to hide. When I take 2-3 minutes explaining to them why 'someone' (data markets) out there knows: what type of porn gets them off, what they shop, how much money they have, what diseases they have (that may impact their chances to a life insurance - theirs' and their kids'), their drinking…

But its not the privacy itself that people care about.

The reason is people care is because this information can be used to harm them.

The reason I care about my credit card number being public is because it can be used to stole my money but If my credit card number can be public while still keeping my money belong to me then I would much prefer that.

The better way would be to make everything as public as much as possible then fixes the issue that arise due to that information being public.

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