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Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by 7a1c9427 »

lxgr wrote: post #74
7a1c9427 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I will take this moment also to mention that "re-implement" isn't exactly right in that they modified the protocol slightly to allow for someone in control of the administration server to change a user's private key without their knowing, so that the admin can decrypt the E2E communications using the known key. Do you have a source for that claim?

GP is probably referring to this: https://boelter.blog/2016/04/whats-app-retransmission-vulner...

I think that is a very charitable assumption about the GP claim. The linked article describes a very specific implementation vulnerability around handling of offline messages that would appear to be routed in user experience being ranked higher than operational security by WhatsApp (understandably). In this case it also does notify the user once they are online, and the original phone is logged out alerting the compromised user.

The GP claim is far broader that all E2E communication can be compromised without user awareness permitting ongoing communication between two unaware parties to be monitored.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by wunderflix »

gtsop wrote: post #64

Funny comments, but jokes aside, I think we're missing a very obvious reason why he has signal. Mark most likely has contacts that are super high up in governments and coorporations who use signal since they can't trust any other app. People who say that he just tested out competition, I think you guys underestimate his technological knowledge and his resources waaay too much. If he wanted to do that he could have ea…

Maybe. And maybe he’s there because he is a smart lad who knows which products to monitor closely.

After all he bought Instagram and WhatsApp for peanuts, and copied the best features of SnapChat.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by karmasimida »

todd3834 wrote: post #9

Is it really surprising that he would have all of the most popular messaging apps? Facebook’s playbook of copying popular features from apps gaining traction is by no means a secret. I’m not totally convinced by the narrative that Mark doesn’t trust his own tools so he prefers Signal.

That is my first thought too.

He might be just trying to experience Signal here and there, and see how to take something from it to facebook.

I don't think he is using this seriously.

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Post by saagarjha »

rataata_jr wrote: post #63
Grustaf wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Disclaimer: My views are my own (and not necessarily shared by my employers). Who is your employer? It's not mentioned in your profile...

Maybe its mentioned in one of his earlier comments on this platform.

It is indeed.

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Post by saagarjha »

astrange wrote: post #32
pengaru wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

signal is not without its shortcomings

There was a recent issue where Chinese citizens pointed out that IMEs with telemetry enabled could capture what you type into Signal and it didn't warn you or try to mitigate this; the Signal guy ignored them, then dodged them for weeks and told everyone they were harassing him, then a white guy pointed out the same thing and his suggestions were immediately taken up.

If I remember correctly the claim was from a Chinese citizen who pointed this out and when Signal didn't treat this as a major security issue (which I felt was understandable given that her concern was mostly along the lines of "you can't say that Signal is secure given that people install other software on their phone that could be a keylogger so you should have a disclaimer") she decided to continue to escalate on social media until she was, IMO, harassing Moxie for his "lack of engagement". I didn't come away particularly impressed by that exchange.

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Post by saagarjha »

Bancakes wrote: post #24
uoaei wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not what I asked. Generally laypeople are not going to be good judges of whether or not an encryption protocol is sufficiently secure. Has it been audited by security researchers ?

You're assuming it takes considerable skill to fuzz an algorithm or look for back doors and easter eggs? To answer your question, I don't know if Wire's been audited by paid researchers. I personally prefer a customer-exposed product whose each commit you can look up rather than the remote promise of security in a locked and hidden program.

> You're assuming it takes considerable skill to fuzz an algorithm or look for back doors and easter eggs?

This is usually a good assumption.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by mamon »

decrypt wrote: post #45

I sent Mark a message yesterday on Signal. It was "delivered" but not "read", obviously. Today, I don't see that contact as a Signal user anymore. I see a "Invite to Signal" button on that conversation view. Guess he deleted the account?

Probably changed the phone number after it had been leaked.
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