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Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by EGreg »

secfirstmd wrote: post #46
7a1c9427 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I will take this moment also to mention that "re-implement" isn't exactly right in that they modified the protocol slightly to allow for someone in control of the administration server to change a user's private key without their knowing, so that the admin can decrypt the E2E communications using the known key. Do you have a source for that claim?

Yeh that's a big claim. Love to know source

I would also like to mention that information is encrypted and cannot be proven.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by dheera »

nine_k wrote: post #39
goatinaboat wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not totally convinced by the narrative that Mark doesn’t trust his own tools so he prefers Signal. He has tape over the camera of his own computer in Facebook HQ

Everybody should have a shutter over the camera, just to protect from blunders and misclicks. No matter how you trust your software, some malware may want to activate it, especially at a high-value target like Zuckerberg (or Bezos, or Nadella, etc). Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate.

> Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate.

Easier on desktops that don't have a built-in mic.

I use a mic with a hardware power switch.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by Daviey »

decrypt wrote: post #45

I sent Mark a message yesterday on Signal. It was "delivered" but not "read", obviously. Today, I don't see that contact as a Signal user anymore. I see a "Invite to Signal" button on that conversation view. Guess he deleted the account?

It was me that originally shared he had a Signal account. But I didn't send him a message, because frankly - I had nothing to say to him.

I am curious, what did send to him? Also, do you often send messages to people you don't know via chat apps linked to phone numbers?

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by creata »

sdfzug wrote: post #49
arkadiyt wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wire uses MLS [1], it has nothing to do with the Signal protocol. [1]: https://messaginglayersecurity.rocks/

afaik Wire works on MLS like many others do - but according to Wikipedia Wire uses the Signal Protocol. Your "source" does not back up your claim

I just read the Wikipedia page and it says, emphasis mine:

> Wire's instant messages are encrypted with Proteus, a protocol that Wire Swiss developed based on the Signal Protocol.

That doesn't sound like "Wire uses the Signal Protocol" to me.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by jhugo »

icybox wrote: post #47
nine_k wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody should have a shutter over the camera, just to protect from blunders and misclicks. No matter how you trust your software, some malware may want to activate it, especially at a high-value target like Zuckerberg (or Bezos, or Nadella, etc). Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate.

Actually, they are. Just grab headphones with microphone and use scissors and keep the jack in.

Don't know about laptops but on recent desktop motherboards the jack detection and output/input switching is done in software. Probably the case on many laptops too. So this approach shouldn't be considered a "hardware switch" as it's still possible to capture audio from another mic even when a headset is plugged in.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by Grustaf »

deadmutex wrote: post #13
todd3834 wrote: post #9

Is it really surprising that he would have all of the most popular messaging apps? Facebook’s playbook of copying popular features from apps gaining traction is by no means a secret. I’m not totally convinced by the narrative that Mark doesn’t trust his own tools so he prefers Signal.

Yeah, it is likely that he was just checking up on the competition. I wouldn't be surprised if turned the narrative on this by saying something like the following: "I was curious to check it out.. it wasn't very good, so I reverted back to Messenger/Whatsapp." IIRC, he made similar comments when he was spotted using G+. Disclaimer: My views are my own (and not necessarily shared by my employers).

> Disclaimer: My views are my own (and not necessarily shared by my employers).

Who is your employer? It's not mentioned in your profile...

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by the-dude »

dheera wrote: post #52
nine_k wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody should have a shutter over the camera, just to protect from blunders and misclicks. No matter how you trust your software, some malware may want to activate it, especially at a high-value target like Zuckerberg (or Bezos, or Nadella, etc). Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate.

> Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate. Easier on desktops that don't have a built-in mic. I use a mic with a hardware power switch.

Mics don't use power. Pedantic, I know.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by 74d-fe6-2c6 »

todd3834 wrote: post #9

Is it really surprising that he would have all of the most popular messaging apps? Facebook’s playbook of copying popular features from apps gaining traction is by no means a secret. I’m not totally convinced by the narrative that Mark doesn’t trust his own tools so he prefers Signal.

Many people who are incompetent about technology have this weird paradoxical attitude towards apps where they will install random apps without even thinking twice and have loads of apps on their phone which are basically just mobile web sites but when it comes to messengers it's the opposite and they feel overwhelmed by having more than WA,FB and IG.

On the other side of the spectrum are people who won't just install some random app without due dilligence, make a pass on appified websites and don't care about how many messengers they have on the phone because it doesn't really matter anyway due to the reactive usage pattern. I suppose MZ is like that.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by carmen_sandiego »

icybox wrote: post #47
nine_k wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody should have a shutter over the camera, just to protect from blunders and misclicks. No matter how you trust your software, some malware may want to activate it, especially at a high-value target like Zuckerberg (or Bezos, or Nadella, etc). Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate.

Actually, they are. Just grab headphones with microphone and use scissors and keep the jack in.

Bold to assume I have a mic jack in 2021.

Re: Leaked phone number of Mark Zuckerberg reveals he is on Signal

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Post by jcims »

the-dude wrote: post #57
dheera wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Alas, microphones are not as easy to deactivate. Easier on desktops that don't have a built-in mic. I use a mic with a hardware power switch.

Mics don't use power. Pedantic, I know.

Some do. Pedantic, I know. ;)
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