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Post by ashkankiani »

azinman2 wrote: post #120
not_exactly__ wrote: post #75

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The (possible) irony is that ClubHouse uses Agora behind the scenes to power its real-time audio. that’s a Chinese company based in Mainland China. I’d be careful if I was them. The double irony is that I believe Agora is blocked behind TGF.

This is something that is swappable if they're concerned about it. The brand, however, is not.

Will they be responsible enough to care about it before it becomes a problem? Proactive infrastructure upgrades are not a strong suit of most "hip" startups.

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Post by Scoundreller »

rvz wrote: post #22

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator ... Clubhouse will take nothing. Well imagine if they had an Android app in the first place or earlier right before all the big players started copying them, then it would have been attractive to the users. Right now, what is the point if the invite system is still there. Another platform can just announce the same thing and they are back to square zero. > We are excited t…

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator

Ohhh, this is going to be a disaster for Manufactured Spend.

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Post by wpietri »

asciimike wrote: post #109
wpietri wrote: post #72

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For an early-stage venture-backed startup a small amount of revenue is worse than zero revenue. What the CEO has sold to investors is slices of glorious future potential. But once you have cold, hard cash coming in, suddenly people start evaluating you as a present, actual thing. And in practice, the amount of money coming in from a new, experimental product won't do shit to drop your burn rate. Better to stay in the…

Ah yes, the classic Radio on Internet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo

Wow, that's so good. I've still never seen the show, as I am pretty sure I would die. But I really appreciate the clips I have so far survived seeing.

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Post by soared »

artur_makly wrote: post #102
artur_makly wrote: post #101

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in the past 4 weeks I've used it for the following, with impressive results: - Networking - Learning about micro-cultures - Practicing my Russian daily - Motivation & Wellness tips - SaaS Growth Hacking tips - Parenting / Relationship Advice - Improve Jam Sessions using "looping" - Listening to a whole lot of authentic wisdom - Remote Sader during Passover - Having a Q&A w/ God.

The last time I've had such a plethora of quality engagement was at BurningMan ( circa early 2000's )

I thought this was a sarcastic comment from someone else. It works equally well as a facetious comment.

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Post by jsemrau »

azinman2 wrote: post #123
manigandham wrote: post #94

What a strange app. Are people really that amazed by conference calls? It seems the entire play right now is exclusivity, not product.

It's not a conference call. It's a moderated panel, and they have many famous / interesting people participating on their platform.

Not sure why this is getting downvoted. The main success factor for Clubhouse is the social graph. It is entirely possible to have access to people like Paris Hilton, Anthony Scaramucci, or MC Hammer among other notable people.

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Post by wpietri »

geerlingguy wrote: post #135
xiii1408 wrote: post #61

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> Yet, with no Android app and an increasing amount of competitors copying the hell out of Clubhouse, I can only see this going in the way of Meerkat, Yik Yak and Periscope. (By being shut down) We'll of course have to wait and see, but I don't imagine that Clubhouse will be entirely displaced. What's unique about Clubhouse is not the concept of a Clubhouse room itself, which is essentially a Discord channel with bas…

My prediction (based on little evidence, just gut feeling) is Clubhouse will go the way of Quora. It started out with a bang (fanfare and huge celebrity usage), ended (well I guess Quora still exists...) with a whimper.

As a former Quora Top Writer (2013 and 2014), that makes a lot of sense to me. And faster, I'd bet.

What made Quora special in the early days was the high-quality community. Smart questions, smart writers answering them, even a reasonable proportion of smart comments. That seems to be the same sort of magic that Clubhouse has managed. It's not the technology, it's the community.

But as Quora tried to scale, that got worse and worse. It wasn't a small set of staff doing moderation, but a wider group of volunteers. The average quality of the questions declined. Comments became more tiresome. A lot of people started writing answers not for the joy of it, but because Quora's larger platform provided them with a means to some personal end. Comments became more tiresome. Indeed, now one of the first search results I get for "Quora" now is an article titled "How to use Quora to power up your lead generation." Ugh.

I'll be really surprised if Clubhouse manages to avoid a similar fate. There's a very low barrier to entry.

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Post by sangnoir »

xiii1408 wrote: post #61
rvz wrote: post #22

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator ... Clubhouse will take nothing. Well imagine if they had an Android app in the first place or earlier right before all the big players started copying them, then it would have been attractive to the users. Right now, what is the point if the invite system is still there. Another platform can just announce the same thing and they are back to square zero. > We are excited t…

> Yet, with no Android app and an increasing amount of competitors copying the hell out of Clubhouse, I can only see this going in the way of Meerkat, Yik Yak and Periscope. (By being shut down) We'll of course have to wait and see, but I don't imagine that Clubhouse will be entirely displaced. What's unique about Clubhouse is not the concept of a Clubhouse room itself, which is essentially a Discord channel with bas…

> Clubhouse is one of the very few online places I've seen people willing to speak frankly on sensitive political issues in Chinese, perhaps because Clubhouse rooms are (at least nominally) ephemeral, leaving no record.

I don't think that's a reasonable assumption since the invention of screen recorders, especially combined with Clubhouse's "real name" and a "real face" policy (I'm not sure if the latter is official policy or just a community convention, I'd be more worried about the former)

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Post by philistine »

skinnymuch wrote: post #78
hbosch wrote: post #71

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>Very interesting that they chose to go with a tipping model vs letting creators set up "pay to enter" chat rooms. I believe the only way around Apple requesting a cut of the payment is to explicitly avoid any notion of "unlocking" extras or access within the app. The tipping method is just a way for users to send money to each other, no biggie... but "unlocking a room" is basically an IAP, or could be defined as one…

Patreon doesn’t give a cut to Apple. It isn’t that far from what is described.

Exactly. Apple is arbitrary when applying their own terms. Like Darth Vader.

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Post by joshspankit »

wpietri wrote: post #146
geerlingguy wrote: post #135

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My prediction (based on little evidence, just gut feeling) is Clubhouse will go the way of Quora. It started out with a bang (fanfare and huge celebrity usage), ended (well I guess Quora still exists...) with a whimper.

As a former Quora Top Writer (2013 and 2014), that makes a lot of sense to me. And faster, I'd bet. What made Quora special in the early days was the high-quality community. Smart questions, smart writers answering them, even a reasonable proportion of smart comments. That seems to be the same sort of magic that Clubhouse has managed. It's not the technology, it's the community. But as Quora tried to scale, that got…

My instinct says you’re exactly on track.

Unfortunately.

Clubhouse is great right now and it seems to take far too long between “lightning strikes” of awesome communities.

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Post by joshspankit »

mynegation wrote: post #137
xiii1408 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yet, with no Android app and an increasing amount of competitors copying the hell out of Clubhouse, I can only see this going in the way of Meerkat, Yik Yak and Periscope. (By being shut down) We'll of course have to wait and see, but I don't imagine that Clubhouse will be entirely displaced. What's unique about Clubhouse is not the concept of a Clubhouse room itself, which is essentially a Discord channel with bas…

There are cool and influential people on Clubhouse, for sure. I listened to and participated in very interesting conversations. The vast majority of Clubhouse though is shady NFT talks, literally blind dating, and shameless self promotion by countless “coaches”, “facilitators”, and “DJs”. I do not have a good feeling about it.

“Majority” is a tricky term here since the hallways are so subjective and the recommendation engines are in flux.

I personally see maybe 1 blind dating room a week and only a couple NFT rooms in a 24 hour span.

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