BTW it is not widely known but the graal stimulant does not exists yet. Vyvanse has a unique value proposition but is only a prodrug to dextro amphetamine, in order to be optimal (for some people, results may vary) it would need to also have a levoamphetamine prodrug. I don't think such a prodrug has been discovered yet.
FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
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Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s called ‘inability to accept that you need to actually put more effort into things, and it’s not going to be fun’. Again, been there, done that. What is one of the classic bullshit things about it again, you can ‘hyperfocus’ on things you like but can’t on things you don’t like. Gosh. Yeah that’s everyone, and everyone sucks it up and finds a way to deal with it.
One of the actual bullshit things about ADHD is that I often can't focus even on things I do like . Absolutely nothing convenient about that.
It fries your dopamine receptors, this is drugs 101. Your are not going to take speed every day for years and function normally, and you will literally need confirmation bias to make sense of that reality.
Also, here is another weird tidbit from life. You might not like the stuff you used to like anymore but you won’t even know since you are sure it’s the disease.
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Think of the relation between being really sad and having crippling depression. Now take “occasional ADHD symptoms” and ramp them up to the same degree. Get an idea of how this could be debilitating now?
Yep - but from what I've seen in kids diagnosed as ADHD it's not really close, my nephew got diagnosed but realistically I can see myself being way worse at his age and still coming out functional without medication.
Why do you feel your opinion is more valid just because you can’t see their pain?
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the actual bullshit things about ADHD is that I often can't focus even on things I do like . Absolutely nothing convenient about that.
This happens after alcohol abuse too. If you abuse alcohol enough, you cannot enjoy stuff without alcohol. It fries your dopamine receptors, this is drugs 101. Your are not going to take speed every day for years and function normally, and you will literally need confirmation bias to make sense of that reality. Also, here is another weird tidbit from life. You might not like the stuff you used to like anymore but you…
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
#55ADHD, diabetes, depression, anxiety, heart disease, suicide and obesity are all labels for defects of human physiology that exist or come to exist from sitting and focusing on one thing (usually alone) for long periods of time. Labeling in this way has the funny consequence of taking onus off the societal arrangement that creates these conditions. I wonder, is this an active discussion in the medical community? The e…
That’s completely untrue for ADHD and Type I diabetes, and untrue for much of depression, anxiety, heart disease, and suicide. So, basically, that list is bullshit.
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
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> None of you ever want to hear it, but everyone goes through this. It’s the human condition. Comments like this make me angry because it shows how much of a disconnect there is with taking ADHD serious. It's like saying to a depressed person to "just don't be sad and focus on something fun". Sure everyone struggles, but imagine those struggles cranked up by 20x. You overthink EVERYTHING, you're driven by random impu…
>Sure everyone struggles, but imagine those struggles cranked up by 20x. You overthink EVERYTHING, you're driven by random impulses that make you focus on something new and shiny, that make you yourself believe that this is not an impulsive, but this time something worth committed to it, just to lose interest 2 weeks later. I'm still having a hard time seeing this as a debilitating condition, I can relate to all the…
You don’t see it as debilitating because you don’t experience it. You’re describing the experience of your chemical reaction to drugs that treat a chemical deficiency you don't have, of course you react differently!
When I take amphetamines as prescribed and coordinated with my doctor, I don’t feel more productive or focused. I feel like the entire act of living isn’t a completely impossible catastrophe. I feel like I can speak to humans without collapsing into a trembling ball of anxious angry sadness. I feel like I can get to the store and back without a complete meltdown. I feel almost normal. Without it I’m lucky if I can get through the day without hoping I wouldn’t. Now do you get it?
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
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It's weird right, because the experience _is_ something everyone goes through but for adhd individuals it is more difficult in a way that's quantifiably describable but difficult to quantitatively convey
It’s called ‘inability to accept that you need to actually put more effort into things, and it’s not going to be fun’. Again, been there, done that. What is one of the classic bullshit things about it again, you can ‘hyperfocus’ on things you like but can’t on things you don’t like. Gosh. Yeah that’s everyone, and everyone sucks it up and finds a way to deal with it.
The only reason why I am where I am today is because I happened to bump into physics and programming early because I have such a short attention span.
I'm not overly familiar with the meaning of hyperfocus but what else is it if you literally don't sleep before the single most important exam I will ever take (due to the ridiculous UK school system) because I was stuck reading a more advanced textbook. I agree that some of this is on the individual - i.e. me - but I have been like this from pretty much day 1, i.e. I actually worked out the other day that I've only ever done something early I think twice in my whole life.
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
#58Seems that lots of people only think ADHD people have a hard time paying attention. If it was that simple I would be so happy. Here are just a few of the things I struggle with. - Will power. People with ADHD struggle sooooo much with will power. It’s a constant struggle with everything in life and really wears you down. - Constantly putting on a fake front pretending you don’t have ADHD. - Rejection sensitivity - Fe…
This is a great start. I’ll add some more: - Other common mental health issues like anxiety and depression. I experience both chronically, treating my ADHD is currently the only management I need, nothing else has ever worked. - Sensory sensitivity including overload, confusion, neurological disorders. Hyperacusis and auditory processing disorder are my main issues. I just learned this past weekend that tinnitus may…
I was a precocious talker and reader, and in many ways a 'gifted' child, but I always struggled to comprehend reading material, or remain engaged with what a teacher was saying. These learning difficulties pretty much negated the value of any 'gift' I may have had. That said, anything related to computing, I was hooked.
It's taken decades to overcome these cognitive challenges, but meditation has been exceptionally helpful to me.
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Spoken like somebody who doesn’t have ADHD. It sound stupid but it’s the truth. You can’t come close to relating if you don’t have it.
> You can’t come close to relating if you don’t have it. Really? How do you know that? I don’t think you can come close to relating to what a non-ADHD person knows or feels as you have ADHD.
Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children
#60Seems that lots of people only think ADHD people have a hard time paying attention. If it was that simple I would be so happy. Here are just a few of the things I struggle with. - Will power. People with ADHD struggle sooooo much with will power. It’s a constant struggle with everything in life and really wears you down. - Constantly putting on a fake front pretending you don’t have ADHD. - Rejection sensitivity - Fe…
This is a great start. I’ll add some more: - Other common mental health issues like anxiety and depression. I experience both chronically, treating my ADHD is currently the only management I need, nothing else has ever worked. - Sensory sensitivity including overload, confusion, neurological disorders. Hyperacusis and auditory processing disorder are my main issues. I just learned this past weekend that tinnitus may…