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Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets
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#72This is a bit tangential, but I wish we weren’t seeing links to tweets showing up as hn stories. It’s not a legitimate news source, and it bans people left and right for nothing because they have such serious botting and conspiracy theory problems
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#73Of course this will get weaponized, if it isn't already. We've seen time and time again that a vile old tweet in the wrong hands can be very powerful, it's a ticking time bomb. Think 5 or even 10+ years down the road, some of the kids who are edgy on twitter today might go in to politics or hold some other high level position. I don't think the current climate is going to cool down anytime soon, but maybe something l…
On the bright side it will be an interesting way to analyze how people's views change over time, seeing how they tweet over a long period. Note that the same tool that can condemn a person can also exonerate them: if they were once upon a time filled with hate an ignorance, and then over time changed, you can show this path convincingly with a full tweet history. But yeah I hope the power to quote out of context to h…
Look at the media today. Very little is reported in full context. It's carved up, and presented in little snippets to imply something different, often with the intent to provoke outrage in the audience. No confidence that this will change; it is only going to get worse.
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#74the only reason one could be concerned about/afraid of this is if they recognize that the window of politically acceptable thought is shifting faster than ever these days, such that today's seemingly levelheaded opinion could be cause for cancellation years down the road. that should be the actual cause for concern, not the fact that things that were publicly posted to the Web are being archived.
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#75Of course this will get weaponized, if it isn't already. We've seen time and time again that a vile old tweet in the wrong hands can be very powerful, it's a ticking time bomb. Think 5 or even 10+ years down the road, some of the kids who are edgy on twitter today might go in to politics or hold some other high level position. I don't think the current climate is going to cool down anytime soon, but maybe something l…
check out this gentleman https://gist.github.com/travisbrown
yeah, there is whole army of those brave speech police officers out there
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#76Basically people should be posting anonymously on the internet (via distinct handles with no connection with one's real name), as is done in Hacker News (although a small percent do post enough details in their posts to connect with their real name). Lots of us started out posting with our real names in the last century (on Usenet for example) and after a while realized how poor an idea this was.
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#77Clicked a couple of items - only metadata is available, other items are "access restricted". I wonder how it works.
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#78Datasets like these feel like a recording of every conversation in a coffee shop: technically public, but practically private for the most part. Feels super gross to see.
How has Twitter ever been "practically private"? We're talking about tweets-- not direct messages.
Doing things in a public place != Doing things publicly
You can do things with a sense of privacy in a public place. When I was young I bought and smoked a lot of weed privately in the middle of a public square.
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#79Does anyone test its completeness, especially for the older date?
Also, i can't seem to be able to download the actual data (only the matadata), it says "Files marked with [lock icon] are not available for download." at https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_twitter_20210316071....
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thinking before I speak and having consideration for how my words might be interpreted in the future is "toxic"? Words you say to others have consequences. It makes sense to take that into consideration. That seems pragmatic and polite to me.
The ability to broadcast some random thought you have to everyone on the planet, publicly archived and attached to your name, for all of eternity, is a new ability. We've never had it before, and we're discovering the consequences of that. I think it's reasonable to have some disagreement about how that ability should be handled without reducing that disagreement to whether or not words have consequences (obviously t…
I don't think there is any useful conversation to be had re: "forgetting" that public data. It's a matter of fact. Once data is public it's public. There no magical "forgettable" bits for special classes of digital data.
Deleting copies pof data from public and quasi-public forums isn't practically possible, short of taking away everybody's general purpose computer. I don't think that's going to happen (and I certainly wouldn't want it to).
I think it's just a world we have to live with. I don't particularly like it, but I don't have a choice in the matter.