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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Not sure if joking or not...

Not at all. I realize WebOS started as a mobile project but I want to see it come full circle back to mobile.

That isn't going to happen. There is no room for another smartphone OS. Look at how much cash Microsoft threw at the problem, and they still couldn't succeed.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I had an S4 then a G4 and then a S8 and never looked back. I'm now on the S20+. The jump from the S4/G4 to the S8 was such a massive one it felt like it was a whole new experience. The only thing that would convince me to switch from Samsung is if Google got its act together and built a real flagship complete with all the bells and whistles. Samsung, for me, just works. It's a bit obnoxious to have doubles of apps, b…

This mirrors my experience. I had an S3, and my experiences with that and having to deal with the S4 for work turned me off of Samsung entirely.

Later on I ended up upgrading from my HTC One M8 to a refurbished S8 (it was one of the only phones on the market that was small enough for my tastes), and honestly I love it. All the flashy aesthetic stuff I had scoffed at Samsung for (curved screen edges, etc) ended up feeling really great once I was using the phones, ignoring Bixby gives me a free extra hardware button, the Samsung apps stack up pretty nicely against the stock Android ones, UI themeing works better than it ever did for me on other phones, and accessory availability is excellent due to their popularity.

Honestly, more phones should start adding extra remappable hardware buttons.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #514

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What's wrong with working around barriers? I find Tasker useful for fixing things I don't like about my phone that are otherwise beyond my ability to fix. For example... 1. By default my phone remembers the last media volume level used with headphones. This does make some sense, but it is easy to accidentally get maximum volume blasted in your ear. I use Tasker to automatically reset the volume to a safe level when I…

Your comments are interesting in terms of the iOS/Android comparison: both of those are things which just work on iOS without needing to find and configure a separate app. This dynamic shows up constantly in these discussions because HN is full of people who enjoy tinkering as a hobby and have strong opinions about things should work whereas from the perspective of most normal people it’s easier to pay $400 for a not…

That is true. I prefer an experience that's more fiddly and annoying overall, but that can be customised to fit my preferred usage if necessary. I would not be happy on an iPhone, stuck with what they have chosen. I like to install my own launcher and such. That's why I use GNU/Linux on the desktop, and Android on my phone. Both of these ecosystems are very fragmented as well. For example, my old Android phone had neither of the problems I mentioned.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Knox and Dex are why I'm locked into Samsung. I like LG's new Wing and want it, but I'm too used to having my Knox security features (like secure folder) and Dex to lose them. Do I like everything Samsung does? Not really, but the things they got right, or closer to right, have me hooked.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #493

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It is a legit concern of mine. I've been asked for phone recommendations from family as well, but they only focus on the main brands with a strong preference for Apple as the status symbol and Samsung as the slightly less pricey option for people who want a phone they can do a bit more with (which is to say they see Samsung as the phone I like because it isn't locked down). Even after explaining there is more to Andr…

> Even after explaining there is more to Android than just Samsung they don't seem to care because their view seems to be based on what advertisements they watch. Fashionistas see you the same way when it comes to clothes. Car people see you this way about cars. Furniture people about furniture. Photography nuts about photo gear, knife people about kitchen knives, restaurant critics about restaurants, and the list go…

that's fine, but why bother asking someone knowledgeable if you're just going to ignore their advice? an audiophile will be disappointed if you ask for a headphone recommendation and say your budget is only $50, but they will probably still suggest a good model for the price.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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I doubt they'll opensource anything even after exiting the market, which is unfortunate. Millions of devices will stop getting updates in a few years.

No difference to the situation before: LG never really bothered with updates or even security updates. That is also the main reason the G4 was my last LG phone... And I hope it was the reason they stopped making phones.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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It is a legit concern of mine. I've been asked for phone recommendations from family as well, but they only focus on the main brands with a strong preference for Apple as the status symbol and Samsung as the slightly less pricey option for people who want a phone they can do a bit more with (which is to say they see Samsung as the phone I like because it isn't locked down). Even after explaining there is more to Andr…

One of the best phones I ever had was a $500 Sony Xperia (amazing battery life). The other best phone was a Nokia 920 (?) Windows phone (zero cognitive load). Tech superiority and user experience are not market defining factors, clearly. I think both Samsung and Apple are trainwrecks compared to their earlier offerings. This because of a lack of competition now.

speaking of "Tech superiority," IMHO... I still think that the Palm OS Centro that I used so many years ago was simply the best. The Nokias of that era just didn't compete. I don't remember the cost but I really don't think it was at all expensive. I do remember that I could anything and everything with little gem. Sometimes I say I'd buy it again in a heartbeat if it had today's processing power. Ah, the good ol' days....

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Ugh, no followup to the Stylo 5, then. Got mine in 2019 shortly after it was released, and it's been rock-solid. Aside from the inevitable non-removable battery, I've had no complaints, and to be fair to the battery, I still get outstanding life from it. I really don't want a phone that's all-glass. I know it's trendy, but, hard pass for me. The aluminum frame and plastic back are things LG got very right with the St…

> And, yes, that 3.5 mm jack is important I thought the USB-C -> 3.5mm adaptors are just mechanical, or have no delay?

There are passive and active dongles. With a passive dongle, the DAC is built into the phone and the analog signal is simply passed through the connector. Active dongles are essentialy tiny USB DACs, they communicate with the phone digitally via USB.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #348

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Changing the battery is an operation that you likely only do once in the phone's lifetime. It doesn't make sense to have design constraints just to make that operation super-quick. Currently it takes an hour at most to do at any repair shop. It's good enough. What matters is that it's possible for a reasonable price.

€100 for labour, €50-80 for parts, now it suddenly only makes sense for high end phones

In practice it already costs about half that price.
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