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Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by 29083011397778 »

b112 wrote: post #330
29083011397778 wrote: post #254

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My KeyOne is actually better due to losing half the screen - I remember trying to open a webpage and a notes app and type in some notes from the page. My Oneplus 3, whenever I pulled up the keyboard, would shift everything up, making it impossible to see what I had focused on. My KeyOne never shifted the view though, because the keyboard was already there. Even better is the effect this has on battery life. The scree…

My comment was about how on-screen, software keyboards eat 1/2 the active screen. The Priv had a slide out hardware keyboard, the optimal solution IMO. Full size screen on the device, hardware keyboard too. I know what you mean, but the keyone didn't lose 1/2 its screen, to lose something, you have to have it first. If it lost 1/2 its screen, it would end up with 1/4 of phone's length with usable screen. Agree with a…

My mistake then, I completely misread what you meant. I thought it was more in the Steve Jobs meaning of losing half the screen; I.E., it's taken up by the keyboard.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by OGWhales »

akalsz wrote: post #168
OGWhales wrote: post #67

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I almost never swipe type unless I am in bed with one hand. Otherwise, tap typing is what I prefer. I have sort of a weird grip but can type at about 80-90wpm on my phone with enough accuracy that autocorrect works the majority of the time. I can also type reasonably well under my desk without looking, but that would be much easier with physical buttons. Does everyone else swipe type now?

> I have sort of a weird grip but can type at about 80-90wpm on my phone with enough accuracy that autocorrect works the majority of the time. I'm quite curious about your `weird grip'; 80-90 wpm on a touchscreen sounds absurdly fast.

So I type with my left pointer finger and right thumb.

My left hand has the middle finger on the side edge, thumb on the bottom edge. The rest of the fingers hang.

My right hand supports the back of the phone with 3 fingers, pointer on the side edge and the thumb types.

Hope they helps describe it. My family and friends make fun of how fast and loud I type and my weird grip, but I do take pride in my speed :)

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by OGWhales »

comex wrote: post #337
akalsz wrote: post #168

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> I have sort of a weird grip but can type at about 80-90wpm on my phone with enough accuracy that autocorrect works the majority of the time. I'm quite curious about your `weird grip'; 80-90 wpm on a touchscreen sounds absurdly fast.

I can get around 75-80 WPM tap-typing on my iPhone. No weird grip. Though, to measure that I had to make my own typing test, because after trying multiple websites and native apps, I couldn’t find any tests that didn’t disable autocorrect. Accuracy without autocorrect may be interesting to measure, but in real-world typing, I intentionally sacrifice accuracy for speed and let autocorrect pick up the slack. A test of…

Ah excellent, I agree most type sites are terrible for mobile. This is much appreciated

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by ungamedplayer »

macksd wrote: post #199
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #55

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> If I ever need to use my phone in an emergency outside in the cold with wet, sweaty perhaps bloody hands Man, we have very different lifestyles. Are you a serial killer? :) > Some of them are programming languages You’re the first person I’ve known who programs on phone hardware rather than using a larger computer with emulators. It must be quite painful for you!

> Man, we have very different lifestyles. Are you a serial killer? :) It wasn't an emergency, but I've certainly wanted to use my phone recently while outside shoveling after a blizzard, with hands that are simultaneously cold, wet and sweaty. Heck, I can hardly use my phone when I'm done at the gym. And one doesn't have to be a serial killer to get blood on their hands in say, a fall while hiking, a crash while biki…

This is the difference between country and city life. Help, or trip to a hospital is quite often longer than you'd survive if you were bleeding out.

Those who have never lived a more rugged life do not understand.

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Post by [deleted] »

spurgu wrote: post #112
dsr_ wrote: post #73

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Most people carry around several liters of blood inside them. It's surprisingly easy to get some out, even by accident. While it is undeniably more comfortable to program with a nice keyboard and big monitor, emergencies can demand that you work with what you have. Typing cat /tmp/accumulatedfiles | while read line ; do sed -i '/inner\;/outer\;/' can be rather frustrating without a real keyboard.

Yup, I've had to troubleshoot servers over SSH on Android more times than I care to count and it's time consuming . Due to this I often bring my backpack with laptop just in case . With a daily driver like this with a physical keyboard I wouldn't have to bother. The size of this (as well as the Astro Slide[0]) deters me from buying though. Well COVID as well since I'm not on the move as much as I used to. But size-wi…

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Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by Sodman »

k_ wrote: post #313
Sodman wrote: post #261

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This looks much more like what I'm looking for alright! Doing some background research it looks like they had some issues with their chipset supplier and had to downgrade the chip a little, but performance benchmarks put it ~around the same place as my Pixel 5's current CPU, which I'd say is much more acceptable (if not totally cutting edge flagship-tier) for a phone in 2021! At $576 (Edit: now $621, looks like the e…

Not sure if that's still true, but a few months ago when I ordered mine early bird had always 0~3 in stock and they added some back the day after it sold out, every time. Check again tomorrow if you're interested but only at a discount.

Wow you're entirely correct, I just checked again 3 days later and there's now magically 3 in stock again :) Thanks for the tip!

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by bradfa »

varispeed wrote: post #225
bradfa wrote: post #208

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I had the secure enclave in my iPhone 8 fail about 6 months after I bought it. Solution was to spend about half an hour on the phone with Apple while they ran remote diagnostics and then take it to an Apple store 30 minutes drive away. 10 minutes spent with Apple store employee while they ran even more diagnostics resulted in them handing me a replacement phone and I walked out. The ability to fairly quickly resolve…

I would never give my phone to the support under any circumstances. I just don't trust that they'll handle my data securely and who knows where my phone will land - some subcontractors instead of disposing it could try to refurbish. I've seen cases where someone bought a phone still with someone's data on it. I look on forums to see what kind of problems people have with a particular phone and if there is nothing ser…

That's a very security minded methodology. But I cannot comfortably afford to throw away a phone which is under warranty when it has a hardware issue.

The Apple store employee made sure to show me they were executing the erase of my phone before I left the table. I had to put in my passcode to initiate the erase.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by dvdkon »

tifadg1 wrote: post #126
nochowder wrote: post #39

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>What segment does the physical keyboard appeal to? Sysadmins, hackers, etc. Ever tried ”swipe typing coupled with autocorrect” in an SSH session?

I just wonder how practical it really is to do any kind of meaningful sysadmin work on a phone. Yeah you can ssh and type long commands better, but if you're in an enterprise setting you have to vpn in, then connect to a jump server so you have ssh aliases and pki certs. Or have them ready on your phone, but how do you keep it up to date? What about auxiliary programs that are needed to make better decisions once ssh…

Definitely not "true enterprise", but I have fixed server issues with my phone on a half-hour train ride. Back then I just used SSH password auth to connect to a server, so no security measures stopped me. Nowadays I'd probably wake up my home desktop and SSH into that and go from there.
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