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Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

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Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

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After a decade or two of these stories it’s clear this won’t change until someone offers a retail solution for everyday small businesses and individuals to enjoy the same level of “tAx PlAnNiNg.” It’s the only thing that will motivate the rest of the legislature to plug the holes.

At least in the UK all the deductions the article lists are open to all sized businesses and are regularly used by small companies, I would assume the same in the US as they are very basic deductions.

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#32

It would be perfectly fine for corporations to pay comically low taxes--- IF they also had NO ability to fund large-scale lobbying operations and were not allowed to put unlimited amounts of money into political campaigns. That's NOT ever going to happen. But now is the best time for the tax part to change. The economy has been floated by unprecedented government pay-outs, narrowly avoiding a deep depression that wou…

> ... unprecedented government pay-outs ...

The G.I. Bill after World War 2 is a precedent. Do you think CARES is larger, or smaller?

Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

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This is crazy how economy is tilted in favour of these big corporations. If you are a worker, it is not uncommon to pay over 40% of tax and if you work on your own small business you can pay even more and have very little left to reinvest. Then you have progressive tax that is preventing you from saving much - if you want to save for a deposit to buy a house, spend time on education and getting a better job, you'll g…

> If you are a worker, it is not uncommon to pay over 40% of tax and if you work on your own small business you can pay even more and have very little left to reinvest. Not true according to this: https://files.taxfoundation.org/20200225094221/FF697-01.png https://taxfoundation.org/summary-of-the-latest-federal-inco...

I am writing from European perspective, I should add that. However I read that in some states it is quite similar.

Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

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post #26

This is crazy how economy is tilted in favour of these big corporations. If you are a worker, it is not uncommon to pay over 40% of tax and if you work on your own small business you can pay even more and have very little left to reinvest. Then you have progressive tax that is preventing you from saving much - if you want to save for a deposit to buy a house, spend time on education and getting a better job, you'll g…

Dont forget: consumers also pay the taxes of the companies as they are factored into the costs of products and services. What matters here is the relative incentive/disincentive that taxation signals. 40% on income from labour shows: dont get income from labour! Small percent on income from property (dividents, etc) show that that's the best place to get money from. Almost zero percent on pollution signals: go for it…

What is the source for 40% tax on income for labor?

https://www.irs.com/articles/2020-federal-tax-rates-brackets...

If you’re adding state taxes, note that the linked article is discussing federal income taxes only. Even then, including state taxes does not get you to 40% for 99% of people.

Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

#37

This is crazy how economy is tilted in favour of these big corporations. If you are a worker, it is not uncommon to pay over 40% of tax and if you work on your own small business you can pay even more and have very little left to reinvest. Then you have progressive tax that is preventing you from saving much - if you want to save for a deposit to buy a house, spend time on education and getting a better job, you'll g…

In pretty much every western European country your tax rates can easily hit 60%+ (like the 100k 60% cliff in the UK). The budgets of these governments are all largely funded on the backs of middle class income tax - 40% of all receipts in the UK, plus another 10-15% from VAT - compared to a lowly 9% from corporation tax [1]. You have to wonder how the economy can ever evolve given everything is geared towards suppressing middle class earners from ever having significant capital.

1: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-...

Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

#38

After a decade or two of these stories it’s clear this won’t change until someone offers a retail solution for everyday small businesses and individuals to enjoy the same level of “tAx PlAnNiNg.” It’s the only thing that will motivate the rest of the legislature to plug the holes.

I don't approve of tax loopholes that large corporates abuse to pay an effective lower rate. However, as an individual we can't change this. My (extremely cynical) advice is to hitch your wagon to theirs. Get some market exposure to these large companies and make their lobbying efforts work for you. It won't make society any more just, but at least you won't get left behind.

If they don’t pay dividends (which they don’t) then what does “Get some market exposure” mean?

Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

#39

This is crazy how economy is tilted in favour of these big corporations. If you are a worker, it is not uncommon to pay over 40% of tax and if you work on your own small business you can pay even more and have very little left to reinvest. Then you have progressive tax that is preventing you from saving much - if you want to save for a deposit to buy a house, spend time on education and getting a better job, you'll g…

Yes, but...

Decades and decades ago, corporations paid most of the tax. People paid very little.

Then things shifted. Instead of taxing corporations, people were taxed. Said people, with less money in their pocket, required raises. And so, over time, tax shifted from corporate to personal, but with people in the end taking home approximately as much as they had before.

For example, you have $60k pretax, $50k take home. Tax rate goes up. You have less, demand a raise. You now make $65k pretax, yet have $50k take home.

Of course, the numbers are merely there for example.

Why all of this? Why a reduction on corporate taxes?

Well, because now corporations can exist anywhere on the planet. If you tax a corporation too high, it can move, and you have nothing to tax. It used to be that this thing called 'tariffs' and 'duties' were an equalizing factor.

If a car manufacturer moved off short to save corporate tax, why then you'd add import tariffs. The point being, the tariff was there to replace the lost corporate tax.

Of course, tariffs are 'bad', and the goal of international trade now, seems to be to lift the third world out of poverty. Which is a laudable goal, however, with no import taxes on many things, and with corporations able to move at whim?

You must keep corporate tax low, or you lose out to competing regions. This is doubly troublesome in a new economy, in which many goods are entirely virtual, and fly across borders on the Internet.

Thus, taxes remain at the personal level -- for people cannot easily move.

Right or wrong? Well, you have to get tax somewhere. And under the current model, it is hard to get it from corporations, squeeze too much, and they're gone. And this model is enabled by most 1st world governments world wide, which have decided that import tax, tariffs, are a bad thing.

The only alternative to more corporate tax, and less personal tax, is to re-enact import taxes, duty, that sort of thing. Else, how do you prevent corporations from moving?

Of course, it's not entirely as simple as all of this, but nothing at a 10000 foot view is. It's just an overview.

Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent

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It is well past time for progressive taxation on corporations and the super rich and to really go after tax evasion. Unfortunately, politicians in the UK, US and elsewhere don't have the polticial will as they are in the pockets of the powerful people who benefits from the current rigged system. In the UK, for example, the newspaper are almost entirely owned by right wing billionaires.
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