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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by Gustomaximus »

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Generally I felt LG was stuck between Samsung and cheaper Chinese brands. Samsung flagships had slightly better specs for people that wanted the latest and greatest. Also they were well known so had purchase inertia. While people wanted budget and willing to try something new went the Chinese brands where for a little less phone, or not sometimes, it's cheaper. Also LG would release at high prices and then drop not too long later chasing volume. I always felt they needed to sacrifice margin for a few cycles to get volume and release at the soon to be markdown price. Kinda how pixel phones have shifted on their last release. Same goes for Sony who have some decent phones too.

G5 was a great phone though wasn't it.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by 411111111111111 »

manojlds wrote: post #218
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #158

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Huawei is basically dead as a consumer brand after USA and EU went after them [0]. They've re-branded most of their consumer stuff as Xiaomi. [0] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-co...

Wait, what? Are you trying to say Xiaomi is rebranded subset of Huawei?

I'm not the parent author but they're both state sponsored enterprise.

I can't speak about wherever they're rebrands though, you'd have to take all their phones apart to figure that out.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by mrweasel »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #337
mrweasel wrote: post #249

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Samsung users makes it sound like they are activating Bixby constantly, while Siri can’t be activate when not enabled. So is Samsung allowing users to disable Bixby? It sounds like they’re not.

Samsung lets you disable Bixby fully. Users complain more about Samsung because Android users are not used to being forced by the device they paid $1000 for, it's a new experience for them, unlike Apple users.

I don’t understand the complaint then, what is Samsung forcing users to do?

Just disable Bixby or buy a phone from another brand.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by philliphaydon »

noahtallen wrote: post #157
philliphaydon wrote: post #127

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The on off button? Doesn’t do anything when I hold it down.

You can enable it in Accessibility > Side Button > Press and Hold. It appears to be enabled by default for me — Siri shows up in less than one second of holding the power button.

Hmmm I have Siri enabled, but this button is off for me. Didn't even know I could enable this.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by philliphaydon »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #335
philliphaydon wrote: post #127

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The on off button? Doesn’t do anything when I hold it down.

It triggers siri on iPhone 11. Single click locks, unlocks. Hold triggers siri. And this is identical to how the lock/Bixby button works in Samsung. Read about it on apples website: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203017

I have the iPhone 11 Pro Max, since launch, with Siri enabled since launch. It's only ever worked with 'hey siri', and apparently my button is off. I didn't even know the button existed until the other reply to my comment!

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by onli »

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I saw a video about that by one of those tech youtubers, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW3wNsTLCEw. Many good points imho:

1. LG did not have one thing they stood for. At a time it was repairability (the LG G5 and LG V20 is one of the best older Android phones with an exchangeable battery), sound quality, supporting modules to extend the phone (but almost never releasing any), one release had a great camera, last year they released one with a cross display. There is no common theme, no follow up on their experiments. Quick, what's the newish LG Velvet about? Even I don't know, and I read the reviews (checking again: There is nothing special).

2. Product names suck, with them all colliding together over time. Samsung also does that a little bit, but not as much with their S line.

3. Repeatedly releasing phones at high prices, putting them in direct competition with almost flagship phones, and cutting them a week after release by several hundred dollars. Instead of cutting the price immediately and getting better reviews by thus being in competition with cheaper and worse other phones.

4. Not supplying reviewers with review models, at least in the US.

No surprise really. I would have loved a modern G5 at some point in the future. But now LG is gone, and the phones they released in between had nothing to do with what made the G5 and V20 good anyway.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by Black101 »

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I dont like my LG G8 ThinQ... the fingerprint sensor stops working constantly until I reboot and I had to send it twice for repair because the USB-C plug was defective... and although I dont use it very much, the 1/8 audio port is also defective (too loose and the wire falls out very easily). And in addition to that, I cant install LineageOS.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by perryizgr8 »

kiwijamo wrote: post #265
batiudrami wrote: post #103

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For a long time stock android didn't have T9 contact searching from the dialer (and, astonishingly, iOS still doesn't), something present since the Galaxy S1.

This is the first time I've heard of T9 being used since we moved on from the old Nokia phones that pioneered T9! Bring back fond memories of my Nokia 3310 and 8210. But yeah it's odd to see T9 in the context of a touchscreen phone...

I love the T9 dialing on my galaxy phone. It's amazing. It saves so much time searching for contacts. Blows my mind that iphone doesn't have it.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

pjmlp wrote: post #349
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #309

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> Some of those issues are manageable when making use of Java APIs, naturally not all of them, and even less if one refuses to touch Java. What do you mean by that and how does it affect not being invoke exec() in android 10 without making changes to SELinux?

You don't call exec(), rather the Android Java APIs, that is the whole point that they don't want to change, more Java and less C POSIX.

Sorry that doesn't make any sense. The whole point of Termux is to make GNU/Linux tools available on Android without root by compiling it for the Termux environment, to run those packages from the user directory it needs exec(). You seem to suggest that it rather be android packages, for that you don't need Termux in the first place.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by throwaway86310 »

zibzab wrote: post #316
jayp1418 wrote: post #220

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Read somewhere "Good product with great marketing beats amazing product with no marketing."

Galaxy S2 was a pretty bgreat phone and Samsung capitalised on that success by releasing slightly improved versions every year . LG on the other hand was up and down. I think LG was the one that needed marketing since they always lost their fans and had to bring in new people

I can't agree with this enough. LG failed to create a marketing worthy "series" like Samsung did with "galaxy" series.
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