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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by dotancohen »

publicola1990 wrote: post #245
reader_mode wrote: post #140

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OnePlus has decent value and while being Chinese it doesn't have a lot of quirks and is geared towards western markets. Motorola also has some decent phones in the budget category. Pixel a series are also great value. I got a Samsung last generation and gave Samsung ecosystem a go (smart watch, buds, TV). They do great hardware but they should just leave software alone - tizen os is a major PITA on TV and Watch (lack…

RealMe phones also seem decently build and value for money.

My daughter just bought one, and it is amazing. Responsive, great looking screen, and by far the best camera of any non-[D]SLR device I've ever seen.

She actually bought it for the camera, nevermind that it was half the price of the other phones that she was looking at.

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Post by qwertox »

Server6 wrote: post #122
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #110

At this point there are basically no non-Chinese mobile phone makers aside from Samsung and Apple. And even those devices are still manufactured in China, right?

Here's a list: Apple – American Samsung Mobile – South Korean Nokia Mobile – Finnish Google Pixel – American Sony Mobile – Japanese LG – South Korean BLU Products – American Lava – Indian Sharp – Japanese Fairphone – Dutch Philips Mobile – Dutch Yotaphone – Russian BQ – Spanish Acer – Taiwanese Asus – Taiwanese HTC – Taiwanese Essential Products – American Cherry Mobile – Philippino DoCoMo – Japanese Panasonic Mobile…

Gigaset - German. I don't know exactly if they let them build in China, but they claim it's "Made in Germany"

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Post by dotancohen »

sanxiyn wrote: post #89
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I greatly preferred TouchWiz to stock Android UI. It's a matter of preference.

I loved the UI on my 2012 Samsung Note 3, cannot stand the UI on my 2019 Samsung A50. Which of the two would have been TouchWiz?

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Post by dotancohen »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #209
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Samsung always had better screens and cameras than anyone else. That's all they needed. They still have the best screens today. They still have the best cameras besides apple today.

You should see the RealMe cameras. The marco mode is fine enough to photograph the hairs on a spider's legs. I've not used an iPhone to compare it too, but the device costs about 1/5 the price of an iPhone locally.

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Post by noisem4ker »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #209
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Samsung always had better screens and cameras than anyone else. That's all they needed. They still have the best screens today. They still have the best cameras besides apple today.

OLED screens are the single most important reason I've chosen Samsung since 2011. They were the first manufacturer adopting and developing them, and they maintained a consistent edge over the competition.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

mpol wrote: post #307
Engineering-MD wrote: post #283

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>>“I can't go out and buy a Tizen or Windows phone in large part because of Google's pathological Android licensing. Google force carriers to choose between their, supposedly open, ecosystem and shipping alternative OSes.” I don’t understand how such a licence can be legal. Surely it is monopolistic practices? Yes, Apple exists at a consumer level, but at the level of phone manufacturers google has a monopoly on lice…

Could the difficulty be around the duopoly? We mostly have laws about monopolies, there can be some push-back against monopolies, but with a duopoly everything "seems" right. I see so many discussions on the internet, also on HN, following the same ritual. Apple does something bad, and people say "Just choose something from the competition, like Google". Then Google does something bad and people say "Just choose some…

Writing legislation is hard enough for a monopoly, it’s probably near impossible for a duopoly. Especially when the consumers want to use what everyone else is using and network effects come in play.

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Post by Mogzol »

JCharante wrote: post #323
moreati wrote: post #295

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For others wondering about KnockON > With Knock ON you can set the phone to turn the screen on by quickly double-tapping the screen. Double-tap an empty area in the Home screen, Status Bar, or Lock screen to turn the screen off. -- https://www.lg.com/us/support/help-library/lg-android-knock-...

Huh I thought that was a stock android thing since mi UI (xiaomi) also has it.

LG was one of the first to add the feature back around 2013. Now it's more commonly known as dt2w (double-tap to wake) and is a feature on a lot of stock roms, as well as pretty much any custom rom.

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Post by Macha »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #293
ungzd wrote: post #262

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Replacing iPhone battery feels like reassembling a mechanical watch. It isn’t soldered, but it’s glued in weird way requiring applying heat. To change battery, you have to disconnect 4-5 tiniest connectors, looking like LPT for fleas, extremely fragile. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+12+Battery+Replacement/1... And you just can’t buy original battery, they’re available only to selected service centres.

Changing the battery is an operation that you likely only do once in the phone's lifetime. It doesn't make sense to have design constraints just to make that operation super-quick. Currently it takes an hour at most to do at any repair shop. It's good enough. What matters is that it's possible for a reasonable price.

€100 for labour, €50-80 for parts, now it suddenly only makes sense for high end phones

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Post by pjmlp »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #309
pjmlp wrote: post #296

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Yes, standard Android, I don't care about deviations like f-droid. Some of those issues are manageable when making use of Java APIs, naturally not all of them, and even less if one refuses to touch Java.

> Some of those issues are manageable when making use of Java APIs, naturally not all of them, and even less if one refuses to touch Java. What do you mean by that and how does it affect not being invoke exec() in android 10 without making changes to SELinux?

You don't call exec(), rather the Android Java APIs, that is the whole point that they don't want to change, more Java and less C POSIX.

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Post by pjmlp »

distances wrote: post #314
Xplune13 wrote: post #155

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I may be in a minority here but that simple UI/UX design is the one of the main features that gravitate me towards stock android. I like the simplicity of that UI and all other themes look like chaos on my screen (that's just me). One point that I agree on is Google should definitely add useful features in their stock android. The sweet point is something like Oneplus's OxygenOS. It is close to stock android with add…

I don't think you're in minority. Parent is one of the few people I've heard to prefer something else over stock.

I guess you need to spend more time away from FOSS friendly bubble.
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