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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by tomjen3 »

scaladev wrote: post #167
blackoil wrote: post #120

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With fast charging, removable batteries aren't that important now. IR blaster is too niche. SD card, headphone jack are still available in lot of phones, but again aren't deciding factor for most people. IPhone is an aspirational brand with awesome marketing, so things like notch which don't make much sense are copied by everyone.

>removable batteries aren't that important now If you like throwing out your phones every two to three years, then sure.

My phone is from May 2019, so just under 2 years and I am still seeing basically the same battery performance from when it was new - something I didn't get with my earlier devices that had a removable battery.

Besides, getting a battery replacement for an iPhone costs sub 80 bucks, which is probably about the same as we would have had to pay for batteries for the older models - and they were more likely to break because you can't get waterproof phones with replaceable batteries.

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Post by Engineering-MD »

underwater wrote: post #241

The mobile phone ecosystem is sick, and I don't see it getting better. The fact that there is not a third choice is maddening. Even in the worst parts of the Microsoft era we had Apple as the underdog. Apple products had issues, but Apple die-hards at least could rest easy knowing that they were buying into a company who stood for something. In the mobile space the underdog is Google; a company who sees dealing with…

>>“I can't go out and buy a Tizen or Windows phone in large part because of Google's pathological Android licensing. Google force carriers to choose between their, supposedly open, ecosystem and shipping alternative OSes.”

I don’t understand how such a licence can be legal. Surely it is monopolistic practices? Yes, Apple exists at a consumer level, but at the level of phone manufacturers google has a monopoly on licensing mobile OS to manufacturers. This is abuse of their dominance to prevent competition from android forks.

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Post by kiwijamo »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #158
Scarbutt wrote: post #26

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I wouldn't discard Huawei, they are on par with Samsung.

Huawei is basically dead as a consumer brand after USA and EU went after them [0]. They've re-branded most of their consumer stuff as Xiaomi. [0] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-co...

Huawei has nothing to do with Xiaomi as far as I am aware. Yes same country of origin but that's all. Perhaps you can cite a reliable source to back up your claim?

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Post by alexvoda »

mhitza wrote: post #201
nullify88 wrote: post #191

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Years ago I used to use the MS Launcher, however I noticed strange behaviour when in low 2g signal areas...Apps would take longer starting up. I'd tap on an icon, nothing would happen and the launcher would appear frozen, few seconds later the app would open. I noticed the launcher was sending traffic whenever I started an app and it was affecting app start times when in low and slow signal areas. I didn't dig in to…

Recently I wanted to try out a new launcher on my phone. I've installed 3-4 different launchers and they all had a huge privacy policy page about the large amount of data they would exfiltrate from the phone. So your experience definitely doesn't come as a surprise.

All of you complaining about trafic caused by launcers and privacy concern should just try an open source launcher from fDroid. I settled for Lawnchair2. It does it job well enough.

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Post by kiwijamo »

cerved wrote: post #63
martinald wrote: post #27

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I dunno. I think Google's new focus on the mid range is where it is at. Got a Pixel 4a 5G and it's a great phone (after the major missteps of the 3 and 4 with their hopeless battery life). To me, I don't see what I'm missing going up from the 4a to a high end Samsung at twice the cost. Maybe a 90Hz display and a slightly faster CPU/GPU, which seem very marginal. I think if Google doubles down on its mid range strateg…

pixel market share is tiny

Tiny as a pixel?

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Post by durnygbur »

juliand wrote: post #76
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I am a s10+ user and recently I ditched all the different google version of my phone apps. I decided to use samsung's version of the calculator, calendar, files and contacts apps. They seem solid enough for me and some of them present better integration with the Samsung ecosystem . Those apps are also integrated with different third party providers including google . I still despise bixby but I'm very satisfied with…

> I am a s10+

> very satisfied with the rest of the phone.

The plastic glass of the back camera in my Samsung s10 cracked in the first 2 months of using the phone, it cracked from laying it on flat surfaces.

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Post by toyg »

puritanicdev wrote: post #274
ksec wrote: post #156

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On a global level, 1. LG are crap at discovery ( Sales and Marketing ) and distribution. Something which despite HN is a forum from VC and Startup, pays very little attention to. 2. LG's phone QA were never really as good. This has been the case since pre-Smartphone era. 3. LG WOLED, something they tried to get it work on Smartphone but never worked and their AMOLED panel were inferior, which sort of have a knock on…

> LG's phone QA were never really as good. They are still abysmal to work with. I'm working on a webOS TV app and some of the updates require their certification, and their QA team is unbelievable...

I had an idea for one of those but absolutely bailed when I saw the joke of an “approval process” they had. I remember something like having to fill in a presentation (!)... The only item missing from the list was “fly to Korea and take the team out for dinner”.

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Post by tomjen3 »

toiletfuneral wrote: post #18
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Honest question, who are the people who need more chargers? Definitely being anecdotal but everyone in my circle is drowning in generations of random usb adaptors, myself included. I’ve been very supportive of removing wasteful redundancy but again, this is subjective

I have tons of chargers because I have had a smart phone for ten+ years. Most of the chargers are usb, not USB-C, so that won't help me if I buy an iPhone, although I have an old cable so that would be fine.

However anybody buying their first phone, anybody selling the old phones or anybody wanting to take advantage of fast charging would need a new(er) charger they might not have.

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Post by eptcyka »

waheoo wrote: post #254
postingawayonhn wrote: post #206

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I think for Samsung the key was to build a loyal customer base by copying the iPhone at a lower price point. Thier designs have now departed significantly from those of Apple but the core customers have stuck around.

I think it's simply that people that buy LG don't buy a lot of phones. Samsung so shit you need to buy the new model to get rid of the annoyances of the last. S3 and note were really their only winners. LG hits it out of the park at every price point almost every generation. Same goes for HTC. Buy once, cry once, hodl that shit for half a decade on the short side.

Is that feasible when the device is only supported for 3 years max? This is a serious question. Just bought a new pixel 5, because the pixel 3 I had bought refurbished 2 years ago will lose support in October. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the pixel 3, it's literally the same phone with slightly older innards and no wide angle camera.
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