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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by nullify88 »

blackoil wrote: post #112
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Google Apps aren't gold standard. I own a Samsung phone I have replaced launcher (MS launcher) /SMS (SMS organizer). Contacts and Phone app maybe Samsung's but they never troubled me. Only Settings search is unexplicably slow which annoys sometimes. In terms of hardware/updates Samsung is good enough. Only Chinese phones may give better value for money but they come with too many software quirks, which I don't like.

Years ago I used to use the MS Launcher, however I noticed strange behaviour when in low 2g signal areas...Apps would take longer starting up. I'd tap on an icon, nothing would happen and the launcher would appear frozen, few seconds later the app would open.

I noticed the launcher was sending traffic whenever I started an app and it was affecting app start times when in low and slow signal areas.

I didn't dig in to it, but I suspected it was sending app usage analytics and the launcher was blocking until its usage data was transferred.

Another MS app "Your phone companion" is also sus. Preinstalled on my S10, it uses 20mb of data a month and I don't use it at all. Receives very frequent updates, its changelog is "Not provided by developer", and it has many permissions.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by benibin »

arkitaip wrote: post #181
deanCommie wrote: post #143

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Samsung absolutely decimated the other manufacturers in marketing - including Google. I remember seeing GQ articles that were interviews with celebrities that was kind of a "30 questions" thing where each celebrity was asked the same set of questions. One of them was: "iPhone or Samsung?" It didn't matter that the answer to every single one (in that issue) was iPhone. It didn't surprise me that celebrities would be 1…

When 6-year-olds use Samsung as a synonym for Android, you know that Samsung's marketing is crushing it. Which is a shame considering how poor their overall software quality is.

I'm sorry but how a 6 years old know anything about phone brands?

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by perryizgr8 »

mrweasel wrote: post #154
philliphaydon wrote: post #127

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The on off button? Doesn’t do anything when I hold it down.

Even if it did that is an extremely deliberate press, it’s not a button you randomly push.

Well Samsung has the exact same setup. So why blame them when you give a pass to apple?

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by erhk »

rnotaro wrote: post #147
sanxiyn wrote: post #121

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There seems to be large regional variance. I live in South Korea, LG definitely advertised a lot. I recommended LG phones to a lot of people who asked me, and no one complained. Edit: For example, people love LG's KnockON feature.

Samsungs S10+ and Google Pixel phones have a double tap to wake up too. [1] https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/how-to-qui... [2] https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7443425

My LG G3 had it in like 2014 or whatever year I bought it.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by erhk »

benibin wrote: post #192
arkitaip wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When 6-year-olds use Samsung as a synonym for Android, you know that Samsung's marketing is crushing it. Which is a shame considering how poor their overall software quality is.

I'm sorry but how a 6 years old know anything about phone brands?

Advertising.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by bigpeopleareold »

arvinsim wrote: post #79
rtkwe wrote: post #67

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There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

All these talk about waterproofing and I never heard one person decide to actually take advantage of that feature. I am definitely on the cynical side of thinking that it was just marketing spin to justify taking away features to increase profits.

Yes - even a splash of water won't concern people as much. If they had a way to secure from the screen not cracking, well that's something most people would appreciate.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

nindalf wrote: post #190
nl wrote: post #170

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> Even without root, Tasker can automate every single aspect of the OS - Want to send and receive WhatsApp messages over email?[1], Want better accessibility e.g. Voice summary of news?[2], Want a butt triggered pomodoro timer?[3]. Termux runs a Linux container and it can run complete Linux distribution inside it with PRoot[4]. Best of all, Tasker & Termux can communicate with each other for endless possibilities. Do…

> Does anyone actually care about any of these things? On HN, sure. The other 3.6 billion smartphone users out there? No. The top voted opinions on HN are niche and don't represent the general population in any way. You can see this effect on other threads. Here are a few classic examples. - Everyone on HN hates Facebook, and yet 2 billion+ people use it every day. - Privacy is a paramount concern on HN, more importa…

I agree about the HN bubble, but not every comment has to reflect the larger market; The comment is about the power users and it reflects the significant portion of HN. Just like content on Computer Science is preferred on HN, it doesn't mean just because not everyone is a CSE/Computer Scientist in the real world, CS content is not valuable.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by oblio »

nindalf wrote: post #190
nl wrote: post #170

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> Even without root, Tasker can automate every single aspect of the OS - Want to send and receive WhatsApp messages over email?[1], Want better accessibility e.g. Voice summary of news?[2], Want a butt triggered pomodoro timer?[3]. Termux runs a Linux container and it can run complete Linux distribution inside it with PRoot[4]. Best of all, Tasker & Termux can communicate with each other for endless possibilities. Do…

> Does anyone actually care about any of these things? On HN, sure. The other 3.6 billion smartphone users out there? No. The top voted opinions on HN are niche and don't represent the general population in any way. You can see this effect on other threads. Here are a few classic examples. - Everyone on HN hates Facebook, and yet 2 billion+ people use it every day. - Privacy is a paramount concern on HN, more importa…

Yeah, I hate this part on HN. People with horse blinkers that don't even seem to realize they have them on :-)

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by lordoftheknow »

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Samsung phones always had problems and shiny screens. Don't know why people raved about such silly gadgets. LG phones were darn good.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by oblio »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #197
nindalf wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does anyone actually care about any of these things? On HN, sure. The other 3.6 billion smartphone users out there? No. The top voted opinions on HN are niche and don't represent the general population in any way. You can see this effect on other threads. Here are a few classic examples. - Everyone on HN hates Facebook, and yet 2 billion+ people use it every day. - Privacy is a paramount concern on HN, more importa…

I agree about the HN bubble, but not every comment has to reflect the larger market; The comment is about the power users and it reflects the significant portion of HN. Just like content on Computer Science is preferred on HN, it doesn't mean just because not everyone is a CSE/Computer Scientist in the real world, CS content is not valuable.

The problem with this logic is that with millions of people, everything can happen.

When someone says "never/no one" in a casual conversation, they don't mean "it's physically and mathematically impossible for this to happen, I'm sure the chance of this is 0%". They mean: "the vast majority of people".

Techie communities can be tiresome with all the nitpicking.

I swear that if I posted a comment saying "nobody puts their dick in the vacuum cleaner shaft" while discussing the best vacuum cleaner design, somebody would feel the need to object and say they did it.

https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Feb-17.html

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