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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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arvinsim wrote: post #73
klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

Androids have become iPhone sheep. That is, whatever iPhone decides to do, they just copy it. I don't know if it is because the business just decide to follow market trends or if the designers are secretly Apple fanboys.

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klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by dageshi »

scaladev wrote: post #167
blackoil wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With fast charging, removable batteries aren't that important now. IR blaster is too niche. SD card, headphone jack are still available in lot of phones, but again aren't deciding factor for most people. IPhone is an aspirational brand with awesome marketing, so things like notch which don't make much sense are copied by everyone.

>removable batteries aren't that important now If you like throwing out your phones every two to three years, then sure.

The part of the audience that drives the market certainly don't have a problem doing that it seems.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by pentae »

In another lifetime ago, back when I was much younger, had a lot more hair, and phones weren't very smart; the cell phone store I was working at had a customer come in with his LG flip phone. The users primary complaint was that it was shocking him on his face while using it plugged into the charger and on a call.

After plugging the phone in we called it from the store phone and sure enough not long after answering the thing gave me a nice big zap on my hand.

Never recommended LG phones after that.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by shellfishgene »

rtkwe wrote: post #67
klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

> IR blasters

(Almost?) all Xiaomi phones still have an IR blaster, which is a pretty big share of the the overall market. Some Huawei models do, too.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by Stratoscope »

villgax wrote: post #29

Can manufacturers do a wedge like design with a thicker top & tapered bottom edge? That way there is no camera bump & the device sits flat on a desk & a bit raised towards you as well. Bonus camera points coz the lenses are along the same axis horizontally & closer to the centre of the device than in one corner, likewise for the front facing camera too, which could just be shoved into one corner without leaving a hol…

I don't mind a camera bump if it is symmetric horizontally. But most of the ones I've seen have the bump on one corner, which ruins the use case you mentioned of setting the device flat on a desk or table.

My Note 8 and a friend's Note 9 don't really have a camera bump at all, other than a barely raised ridge around the camera section. But unlike many other phones, this ridge is symmetric: it extends equally to the left and right. Even if this were a raised camera bump, it would still work for setting the phone on a table.

The iPhone I got from work is quite different: it has a rather thick camera bump on one corner. So when it sits on a table, if I tap on the display the whole phone wobbles.

That is very poor design, but now Samsung seems to have copied it! The newer Samsung phone have bumps in one corner just like the iPhone, so they would be just as annoying to use on a table.

For the moment I am hanging on to the Note 8 for dear life, until I find a newer phone with a good camera and either no bump or a symmetric bump. Are there any high end phones like this any more?

(Regarding a sibling comment about cases, that is one solution, but I don't use one and don't plan to.)

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Post by Erlich_Bachman »

ehsankia wrote: post #55
shp0ngle wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is lots of weird Android stuff on AliExpress.

You don't even need to go that far. - ASUS is on it's 5th? gaming focused phone (with attachable fan and all) [1] - You have folding, flipping and stretching [2] phones - You still have plenty of great niche hardware keyboard phones [3] The issue is that these mostly fill niches, as the majority of people are happy enough having the a clean simple phone. [1] https://rog.asus.com/phones/rog-phone-model/ [2] https://ww…

> plenty of great niche hardware keyboard phones

Plenty? In what way? There seems to be one company that makes a keyboard phone with outdated CPUs and other hardware, to make ends meet and be able to produce such a phone economically.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by jayd16 »

klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

The way I see it, WWDC has been full of 2 year old Android features for 3 years now, and the iPhone hardware is always strictly less featured than that year's Galaxy phone. Certain changes sweep through the industry like the notch or no headphone jack etc, but you can always fine some Android phone with the mix you want.

If it wasn't for the Apple silicon (and the advantage is clearly Apple's) it would be just come down to whether you preferred iOS enough to overcome the obvious feature advantages on the Android side.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by f6v »

klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

> even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack

I love wireless headphones myself. But you’ve got to admit that it’d be much harder to sell those if phones had 3.5mm jack. It’s as if corporations do anything to increase revenue...

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