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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by neild »

arvinsim wrote: post #79
rtkwe wrote: post #67

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There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

All these talk about waterproofing and I never heard one person decide to actually take advantage of that feature. I am definitely on the cynical side of thinking that it was just marketing spin to justify taking away features to increase profits.

I’ve never decided to take advantage of waterproofing, which made me all the more appreciative on the times I’ve unexpectedly done so.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by batiudrami »

Aloha wrote: post #96
perryizgr8 wrote: post #87

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> I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung phones work well, they have one of the best cameras, the best screens, the best batteries, usually the most features. LG phones are famous for boot-looping. > different (shitty) UI It is a matter of opinion. I much prefer Samsung's UI over the garbage that is google's, and even slightly better t…

Apple has never had a dedicated Siri button. Also, it's a phone dialer - like the functionality of a phone dialer has been well defined since the early 2000's (also having used PalmOS, webOS, Windows Mobile 6 and 7, Early Android, and iOS from 2012 on I've never desired additional functionality here), so like what makes a phone dialer "like 10 years ahead"? - I'm not trying to snark, it's a genuine question.

For a long time stock android didn't have T9 contact searching from the dialer (and, astonishingly, iOS still doesn't), something present since the Galaxy S1.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by vanshg »

ekianjo wrote: post #94
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

> tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung bought more ads, maybe?

Ding ding

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by reaperhulk »

sanxiyn wrote: post #100
xpressvideoz wrote: post #60

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IIRC Huawei's OS is just a rebranded Android.

Huawei is absolutely writing their own kernel, see https://github.com/LiteOS/LiteOS .

They may be working on other things but they also trumpet harmony as their own. Ars Technica wrote an article about how original it actually is: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/harmonyos-hands-on-h...

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by supernova87a »

Maybe it's a statement about how difficult it is to be profitable in the industry, and how much support/development effort it takes to keep up.

If this is true, I might suggest that people who wonder "can't we just make our own open source phone" inject some realism into their estimates about how much work is needed to make an alternative that people actually want to use.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by mindentropy »

juliand wrote: post #76
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I am a s10+ user and recently I ditched all the different google version of my phone apps. I decided to use samsung's version of the calculator, calendar, files and contacts apps. They seem solid enough for me and some of them present better integration with the Samsung ecosystem . Those apps are also integrated with different third party providers including google . I still despise bixby but I'm very satisfied with…

Google Keyboard is the worst. It is so laggy and there is no way to adjust the keyboard keys for fat finger people.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by LeoPanthera »

batiudrami wrote: post #103
Aloha wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has never had a dedicated Siri button. Also, it's a phone dialer - like the functionality of a phone dialer has been well defined since the early 2000's (also having used PalmOS, webOS, Windows Mobile 6 and 7, Early Android, and iOS from 2012 on I've never desired additional functionality here), so like what makes a phone dialer "like 10 years ahead"? - I'm not trying to snark, it's a genuine question.

For a long time stock android didn't have T9 contact searching from the dialer (and, astonishingly, iOS still doesn't), something present since the Galaxy S1.

Why would you need T9 on a touch screen? You can just display a full keyboard. That was the defining aspect of the keynote that launched the first iPhone, even.

There's nothing "astonishing" about it.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by klondike_ »

rtkwe wrote: post #67
klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

>removable battery It's not really worth the extra few mAh for a battery you can't replace, considering that in a few months it will wear out and you quickly lose that advantage. User replaceable batteries allow you to put in a fresh battery every year, meaning you can take full advantage of the battery capacity regardless of how old the phone is.

>IR Blaster The IR blaster is one of the most used apps on my V20. It can control anything from my circa-1980s stereo system to my modern surround sound AVR. And all without any proprietary apps which never get updated or having to connect to WiFi! I've put all my remotes in a drawer and forgot about them because I can do it all from my phone. I think this feature would get a lot more use if it was included on more phones, considering an IR LED is about $0.01 to include. Why do "smart" devices resort to overcomplicated and insecure Bluetooth/WiFi control interfaces when we had this problem solved since the 80s?

Waterproofing is a poor excuse. Most phones that removed these features are not waterproof. Samsung themselves proved that you can have all these things in a waterproof phone with the Galaxy S5.

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