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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Given LG's success in the TV biz with WebOS, I'm surprised they never made a port of the OS for their mobile line.

WebOS is originally made for mobiles.

Not enough people want an OS that doesn't have native support for Android or iOS apps. Even windows couldn't cut it.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Sony doing these days?

Making excellent phones that are ignored, like LG was doing.

are you sure? https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/05/sony-mobile-strateg... (headline says "Sony Mobile Has Now Officially Left Most Of The Global Market" from 5/2019)

I guess that I will have to give Google phone or Huawei a try, for my next phone. (once tried xiaomi, didn't like them)

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

Androids have become iPhone sheep.

That is, whatever iPhone decides to do, they just copy it.

I don't know if it is because the business just decide to follow market trends or if the designers are secretly Apple fanboys.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #12

I wish I could be more sad about this. LG lost a lot of trust during their bootloop era, around the time of the G4. They had some interesting ideas with their V series, but I just couldn't bring myself to trust them after my G4 died in less than 18 months.

> after my G4 died in less than 18 months

The whole G4 bootloop fiasco is why i'll never buy a LG phone again.

Went through 4 G4's in 12 months because of it.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #53

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

LG V20 is a fantastic phone. It feels so much better than every other device I've ever owned. Space-age frame with such core ruggedness, great screen, great for it's day camera, sd card, sweet audio. And! And! Someone managed to unlock the bootloader. So there's a variety of decent roms one can run on it. All aging now, a little bit too old at this point, but this 2016 device was swinging mightily until it became utt…

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I am a s10+ user and recently I ditched all the different google version of my phone apps. I decided to use samsung's version of the calculator, calendar, files and contacts apps.

They seem solid enough for me and some of them present better integration with the Samsung ecosystem . Those apps are also integrated with different third party providers including google .

I still despise bixby but I'm very satisfied with the rest of the phone.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #67

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

The traditional approach to an SD card is to put it in the tray. The OnePlus line of phones had its second SIM slot also accept an SD card. That is, one tray, one waterproof gasket, with the tray long enough to accept two cards. This is the same on the Note 10+, and is in fact an upsell feature from the Note 10.

Headphone jack needing to be waterproofed is a bit of a lie, as there have been IP68 phones with a headphone jack. It's simply wanting to cut down on prices.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Yeah, I like the Samsung UI. I think it's brilliant to have the scroll area in the below half of the screen initially, to make it easy to touch the first few items of the list.

I even like some of their apps. Samsung Health is, in my opinion, infinitely better than Google Fit. The latter doesn't even let me delete mistakenly input data. I'm not sure what Google's strategy on this app is.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #67

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

All these talk about waterproofing and I never heard one person decide to actually take advantage of that feature.

I am definitely on the cynical side of thinking that it was just marketing spin to justify taking away features to increase profits.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

I agree that the hardware omissions are blatant copy from Apple as the way to have more markup and revenue from accessories, software services but I like to differ on the OS front.

Android's power user ecosystem couldn't be matched in iOS. Even without root, Tasker can automate every single aspect of the OS - Want to send and receive WhatsApp messages over email?[1], Want better accessibility e.g. Voice summary of news?[2], Want a butt triggered pomodoro timer?[3]. Termux runs a Linux container and it can run complete Linux distribution inside it with PRoot[4]. Best of all, Tasker & Termux can communicate with each other for endless possibilities.

Of course Google can mess it up with their policy/API changes for Playstore, but that's where 3rd party app stores like f-droid comes in and can ensure open-source apps like Termux can be published without hurdles. Not to mention the privacy focused apps on f-droid.

And if one doesn't want anything to do with Google, LineageOS has proven itself to be a viable replacement for stock android.

[1] https://abishekmuthian.com/send-and-receive-whatsapp-message...

[2] https://abishekmuthian.com/voice-summary-of-news/

[3] https://abishekmuthian.com/butt-pomodoro-a-butt-triggered-po...

[4] https://wiki.termux.com/wiki/PRoot

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