Maybe todays, heated disucions will be setted for good? Or something new, better will be invented?
I can only think that modern front end development has failed
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#22As for why front end development may be a bit of a mess here? Well, it's really a problem that doesn't have just one cause.
On the one hand, business pressures likely have a huge impact here. Companies love analytics, tracking, ads, etc, all of which contribute greatly to the issue of slow loading, broken sites. If you include everything and the kitchen sink, then things will clash or time out or break.
There's also an issue with businesses focusing on speed and working getting done quickly rather than well. If you're given unrealistic deadlines, and the feature set is changed midway through development because some manager/sales team thought of a shiny new idea that needs implementing... well it seems like optimisation, usability, etc often end up on the cutting room floor.
And yes there's a bit of envy from developers towards Facebook/Google/Apple/whatever there too, and a need to 'test out the shiny new toys' so they can potentially get hired there in future. I suspect CV padding is definitely why SPAs are way more common than they used to be, and why simple static or server rendered sites seem nearly nonexistent now.
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#23You cant even find a website that passes html validation these days.
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#24I don't think that web is slow, unless you're running seriously underpowered computer. That's not the case for me. Web is not as fast as it could be. And that's because customer does not want to pay for fastest website in the world. It should be fast enough and then features matter. You can spend year making your website load in 0.1 second while your competitor will implement important features and his 2-second loadi…
All of that is true until it isn’t. Ask all the stock trading apps how Robinhood out-UXed them. When the out-user-experienceing happens, you pretty much will lose your entire business if you don’t undertake a paradigm shift. Stay ahead of the curve a bit.
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#26Regardless of my tweet, that is a personal opinion based on my feelings, background and experiences, the discussions in the replies are interesting from the POV of understanding what different people think in the programming community. Some will say that critiques are only from old people, in the style "when I was young we had only zeroes! You now have ones and zeroes". Others say that the web is slow because of ADs…
What we have today are the same problems with a new wrapper, created by a not dissimilar group of people from the past.
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#27I don't think that web is slow, unless you're running seriously underpowered computer. That's not the case for me. Web is not as fast as it could be. And that's because customer does not want to pay for fastest website in the world. It should be fast enough and then features matter. You can spend year making your website load in 0.1 second while your competitor will implement important features and his 2-second loadi…
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#28We would have closed up shop a long time ago if we hadn't discovered Blazor and all of the productivity gains that go along with it.
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#29I used to do some HTML and CSS 25 years ago and it was a nightmare to make it look like I wanted.
Today I use Vue+Quasar and everything just works.
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#30Life is too short for shitty slow, bloated websites and buggy apps. Just dont use this trash, if the devs aren't going to up their game and prioritize user experience over profits then fuck them.
The only way web developers are going to improve is if they start losing users and money. Until then they'll keep crapping out garbage.