Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
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Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#2Here's an article from 2017 with a bit more information on the local industry and surrounding issues.
https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2017/04/f...
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#3Sounds like a case of "it's too expensive to deal with this wastewater, so let's just put it in a big pond and hope the dam bursts and we can claim it was all a big accident"
Mining industries are especially famous for this - there are ponds of waste that are 70 years old, just waiting for their moment to escape...
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#4Here's an article from 2017 with a bit more information on the local industry and surrounding issues. https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2017/04/f...
Good article on the background, thanks!
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#5Quotes for the ages:
"The water meets water quality standards for marine waters with the exception of pH, total phosphorus, total nitrogen and total ammonia nitrogen,"
"Marine water" itself will kill with three or four easy gulps, but I guess this wastewater is going into the ocean? It still sounds a bit too much like "yellow, except for the color, which is blue". Plus I'd expect any industrial wastewater to have lots of fun contaminants they haven't tested for and/or just don't have explicit limits set.
"A very aggressive monitoring operation"
There's a term I've been missing my whole life. It's my go-to action item priority one from now on when faced with...
"... everything possible to prevent a true catastrophe."
And untrue catastrophe?
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#6Sounds like a case of "it's too expensive to deal with this wastewater, so let's just put it in a big pond and hope the dam bursts and we can claim it was all a big accident" Mining industries are especially famous for this - there are ponds of waste that are 70 years old, just waiting for their moment to escape...
Do you have some more information about where those old ponds are located? Thanks!
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#7Sounds like a case of "it's too expensive to deal with this wastewater, so let's just put it in a big pond and hope the dam bursts and we can claim it was all a big accident" Mining industries are especially famous for this - there are ponds of waste that are 70 years old, just waiting for their moment to escape...
Do you have some more information about where those old ponds are located? Thanks!
Coal operations have slurry ponds where they store the sludge from washing the coal. And coal power plants have fly ash ponds which are bad for the environment. We’re shutting down the coal plants but these ponds will be around forever.
Here is a map of ash ponds from power plants
https://earthjustice.org/features/map-coal-ash-contaminated-...
Here’s a link to the slurry spill I lived through with no water for days
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_County_coal_slurry_sp...
And here’s some pictures of the “impoundments” https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/8693/coal-sludge-im...
Edit to add this quote:
“ Although coal impoundments have a relatively low rate of failure, their extreme size—some hold more than a billion gallons of sludge—makes any breach potentially devastating.”
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#8I work there sometimes. They have a lady that rides around in a golf cart, taking water samples and testing, fulltime. I suppose thats their "aggressive monitoring".
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have some more information about where those old ponds are located? Thanks!
Coal operations have slurry ponds where they store the sludge from washing the coal. And coal power plants have fly ash ponds which are bad for the environment. We’re shutting down the coal plants but these ponds will be around forever. Here is a map of ash ponds from power plants https://earthjustice.org/features/map-coal-ash-contaminated-... Here’s a link to the slurry spill I lived through with no water for days h…
Thank you! Very interesting and frightening.
Re: Florida state of emergency with millions of gallons of “radioactive wastewater”
#10Quotes for the ages: "The water meets water quality standards for marine waters with the exception of pH, total phosphorus, total nitrogen and total ammonia nitrogen," "Marine water" itself will kill with three or four easy gulps, but I guess this wastewater is going into the ocean? It still sounds a bit too much like "yellow, except for the color, which is blue". Plus I'd expect any industrial wastewater to have lot…
The stack in danger of breaching was filled 8 years ago with sea water from dredging the port, and it is supporting wild life now, for what that's worth. In my experience, flora and fauna will grow under nearly any conditions, though.