Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
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Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#2This happened because this time[0] the Media - strangely - kept the responsibles anonymous. This feeds conspiracy theories.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#3Well, that was probably predictable. If the news coverage of her being the "first female ship's captain" happened near the same time as the Suez Canal incident, those two stories can easily be conflated into a "told you so" narrative to justify condescension towards women aspiring to be ship's captains.
It doesn't matter whether the correlation is real because the narrative feeds into existing stereotypes and anyone peddling it confronted with evidence to the contrary will just say that while it may be factually untrue, it still carries some underlying truth and that's what matters.
This is just a microcosm of why "fake news" has become so widespread on social media.
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#4That's pretty bad, but who was the real captain? It's the first time I see total silence about the crew in official sources. At least it is mentioned in some reputable sources (e.g. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/04/01/suez-can...) that the crew was Indian, but still not a single name.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#5That's pretty bad, but who was the real captain? It's the first time I see total silence about the crew in official sources. At least it is mentioned in some reputable sources (e.g. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/04/01/suez-can... ) that the crew was Indian, but still not a single name.
Probably they want to wait to announce anyone "responsible" as they haven't quite figured out what really happened and who really was responsible. So before letting media guess who it was (and then Twitter or whatever else shittyverse to make everything even worse), they wanna make sure any claims are correct.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#6Well, that was probably predictable. If the news coverage of her being the "first female ship's captain" happened near the same time as the Suez Canal incident, those two stories can easily be conflated into a "told you so" narrative to justify condescension towards women aspiring to be ship's captains. It doesn't matter whether the correlation is real because the narrative feeds into existing stereotypes and anyone…
Or, is just a "fun" joke that ties into stereotypes. "Haha, told you women couldn't drive, look at this one stopping global trade" and then it spirals out of control.
Not sure we can or should read too much into it.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#7That's pretty bad, but who was the real captain? It's the first time I see total silence about the crew in official sources. At least it is mentioned in some reputable sources (e.g. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/04/01/suez-can... ) that the crew was Indian, but still not a single name.
as i understand it, while ships go through the canal, they are accompanied by a local guide who i believe takes over control of the ship.
so even if this was human error, it's not likely that the actual captain was responsible. but i can also imagine that a guide, while familiar with the local conditions was less familiar with the ship itself, a ship that large, which has a different response time than smaller ships. this alone should increase the risk for innocent mistakes. so i find it hard to believe that there should be anyone to blame.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#8This happened because this time[0] the Media - strangely - kept the responsibles anonymous. This feeds conspiracy theories. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Schettino
Do you remember when a subreddit managed to frame someone innocent for the Boston marathon bombing?
This kind of thing happens regardless of whether the media correctly identifies the person(s) responsible, especially if the scapegoat people run with fits into preexisting prejudices (e.g. nobody in the country questioned it when the German police blamed the murders of Turkish minority business owners on "probably the Turkish mafia" until it became clear they were part of a terrorism plot of the _National Socialist Underground_, a white nazi group).
It's also worth questioning what good identifying "the person" responsible in the media would do. If anyone directly involved faces criminal charges, we'll probably find out once they've been found guilty. But anyone involved in software development should know that saying "this person did it" when doing a post mortem on a catastrophic incident like this is not a productive use of anyone's time unless the goal is just to have someone to sacrifice in order to avoid addressing the underlying problems that led to the incident.
Also, while the Canal was blocked for days, the ship did not sustain any critical damage and the cargo seems to have remained safe and secure. The captain of the Costa Concordia on the other hand killed 32 people and sunk his ship. The two incidents are hardly comparable.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#9That's pretty bad, but who was the real captain? It's the first time I see total silence about the crew in official sources. At least it is mentioned in some reputable sources (e.g. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/04/01/suez-can... ) that the crew was Indian, but still not a single name.
as i understand it, while ships go through the canal, they are accompanied by a local guide who i believe takes over control of the ship. so even if this was human error, it's not likely that the actual captain was responsible. but i can also imagine that a guide, while familiar with the local conditions was less familiar with the ship itself, a ship that large, which has a different response time than smaller ships.…
>it's not likely that the actual captain was responsible.
It'll be interesting how it plays out, but the captain is ultimately responsible and can overrule the 'guide'. So the captain is not off the hook here.
Re: Marwa Elselehdar: 'I was blamed for blocking the Suez Canal'
#10That's pretty bad, but who was the real captain? It's the first time I see total silence about the crew in official sources. At least it is mentioned in some reputable sources (e.g. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/04/01/suez-can... ) that the crew was Indian, but still not a single name.
Probably they want to wait to announce anyone "responsible" as they haven't quite figured out what really happened and who really was responsible. So before letting media guess who it was (and then Twitter or whatever else shittyverse to make everything even worse), they wanna make sure any claims are correct.
Don’t the operators of the Suez require their own capitans, familiar with the channel, to board a vessel and navigate the channel. Similar to Harbor capitans/Harbormasters.
I think even on this site there was a link documenting the crazy amount of bribery needed to easily transit.