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Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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I don't appreciate the sarcasm. Seeing a nipple can have serious effects on the psyche of a still-developing child. Luckily, the chance to see one (even by accident) is very small, since we banned nipples in 2017, and very few people now have them.

I'm curious, what are those serious side-effects? Humans have seen nipples since...forever? These sounds just like another crazy theory

It's irony.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

It is possible. Here’s how: - reach out to 20 biggest streamers on twitch and get them to agree to move to your platform, the same way spotify got Joe Rogan to move from YT to Spotify - with signed agreements ready get funding - build the platform, and all accompanying streamer tools, preferably fix all major issues that twitch has - set the date for launch - launch, with all your onboarded twitch streamers streaming…

I like the formula, though I'd maybe instead aim for 200 mid tier streamers with good growth potential for the same money.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

It is possible. Here’s how: - reach out to 20 biggest streamers on twitch and get them to agree to move to your platform, the same way spotify got Joe Rogan to move from YT to Spotify - with signed agreements ready get funding - build the platform, and all accompanying streamer tools, preferably fix all major issues that twitch has - set the date for launch - launch, with all your onboarded twitch streamers streaming…

I think you're heavily underestimating necessary investment. I would say by a factor of 2 easily[1] in practice more like 3-4 because once you go in you want to have a decent chance of success. Also ignoring the fact that as soon as it starts working, you have Amazon on your back with much much deeper pockets than you to keep market of viewers acting irrational.

Anegdata, I just stopped listening to Joe Rogan, despite liking Spotify more than Youtube. I was on the fence anyway, I'm lazy and so on.

It seems to me that we're at the point where it takes the next generation of kids for a new service to get into a crowded space. Because popular people on the platform (it's always about these hubs, that you got right I think) just become older and less relatable.

1. https://checkpointxp.com/2020/12/17/highest-paid-twitch-stre... take into account that somebody likely paid for most pixels on the screen before they even start streaming

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

It is possible. Here’s how: - reach out to 20 biggest streamers on twitch and get them to agree to move to your platform, the same way spotify got Joe Rogan to move from YT to Spotify - with signed agreements ready get funding - build the platform, and all accompanying streamer tools, preferably fix all major issues that twitch has - set the date for launch - launch, with all your onboarded twitch streamers streaming…

Mixer kind of tried to do the same thing and failed. Twitch is more of a community at this point and is really hard to disrupt. I follow more than a dozen streamers on twitch and one of them moving to another platform isn't much of an incentive for me to change my primary platform. If anything it's an annoyance.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is possible. Here’s how: - reach out to 20 biggest streamers on twitch and get them to agree to move to your platform, the same way spotify got Joe Rogan to move from YT to Spotify - with signed agreements ready get funding - build the platform, and all accompanying streamer tools, preferably fix all major issues that twitch has - set the date for launch - launch, with all your onboarded twitch streamers streaming…

Isn't that what Mixer did, and failed?

Among others. It’s easy to beat twitch from a comment section, but well funded companies have tried and failed.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Any word on why they were banned?

One of the demos had a nipple in it. Probably got flagged by an algorithm.

It's absolutely okay to show scenes of murder, violence, rape, gore and law breaking.

Thankfully American owned companies are doing their best to keep evils such as nipples and general nudity off the screen.

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

Youtube would be theoretical able, if they get their shit together and fix their aweful attitude and technology. They have the size, the ability and money...but for some reason social services & user friendliness is a big blind spot for google and they regulary fail hard in that area. And this shows in youtube streaming-area which is so user hostile that it even has started to shrink now.

Youtube is Google owned.

Anything that is owned by Google won't improve but rather decline:

- search? Was at its best in 2007

- Reader? Killed after spending all the air in the rss market.

- Google+? Killed after they'd suffocated a few interesting alternatives.

- etc

(notable exception: after a decade they've actually stopped serving me insulting ads - but I do wonder if that wasn't Google but rather the advertiser who got whiff that Google sent their expensive "targeted" ads to everyone.)

Re: Revision demoparty banned on Twitch mid-stream

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Is anything capable of disrupting Twitch at this point? YouTube would be impossible to disrupt, but Twitch is ephemeral. So maybe if enough people got outraged?

Twitch itself replaced HitboxTV, which was pretty much in Twitch's situation today: a de facto monopoly, and technical issues (they offered either the resource hungry Flashplayer or a semi-broken HTML5 implementation). SO what will disrupt Twitch is the same thing as usual: a combo of a greedy company, a user experience that gets worse and worse, and a new tech coming out.

> a combo of a greedy company, a user experience that gets worse and worse, and a new tech coming out

Interestingly Youtube has 2 out of 3 - greedy company running ads every 3 minutes, and constant full screen badgering about cookies and sign-ups. I wonder what the new tech will be that will complete the set?

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