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Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by xwdv »

bb123 wrote: post #9

This is so incredibly sad, and I feel so helpless that this is slipping through our fingers. I fear I’ll never get a chance to see a coral reef in real life, and it looks almost certain that my children won’t. Is there anything we can do as individuals to help? I tried looking into conservation efforts but it seems like any amount of money we could hope to donate isn’t going to make a drop of difference to sea temper…

We could perhaps make 3D scans of the reefs and create VR simulations to give people the sense of being there.

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by devtosales »

ghiculescu wrote: post #52

I grew up in Queensland. During school in the late 90s, we were taught the same thing, except the reef was meant to already be gone by today. When I visited a few years ago, it was stunning. Hopefully this report won’t come true either, but it is hard to believe anyone predicting what Australia will be like in 2100. In any case, particularly on a forum like this, we should argue about what technological ideas we can…

I dived a few different areas two months ago in QLD and I was very sad to see a belched dead reef. I’m sure there are healthy parts but there are a lot of dead or dying parts too.

Australia is no longer my top country to dive - Indonesia and Philippines are far better.

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by puppable »

xwdv wrote: post #81
bb123 wrote: post #9

This is so incredibly sad, and I feel so helpless that this is slipping through our fingers. I fear I’ll never get a chance to see a coral reef in real life, and it looks almost certain that my children won’t. Is there anything we can do as individuals to help? I tried looking into conservation efforts but it seems like any amount of money we could hope to donate isn’t going to make a drop of difference to sea temper…

We could perhaps make 3D scans of the reefs and create VR simulations to give people the sense of being there.

In a certain way, thinking about this solution just makes me feel more ill...

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by gedy »

astockwell wrote: post #15
bb123 wrote: post #9

This is so incredibly sad, and I feel so helpless that this is slipping through our fingers. I fear I’ll never get a chance to see a coral reef in real life, and it looks almost certain that my children won’t. Is there anything we can do as individuals to help? I tried looking into conservation efforts but it seems like any amount of money we could hope to donate isn’t going to make a drop of difference to sea temper…

Vote.

You mean in China?

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by cocoa19 »

xwdv wrote: post #81
bb123 wrote: post #9

This is so incredibly sad, and I feel so helpless that this is slipping through our fingers. I fear I’ll never get a chance to see a coral reef in real life, and it looks almost certain that my children won’t. Is there anything we can do as individuals to help? I tried looking into conservation efforts but it seems like any amount of money we could hope to donate isn’t going to make a drop of difference to sea temper…

We could perhaps make 3D scans of the reefs and create VR simulations to give people the sense of being there.

I feel we're focusing on the wrong thing here. The primary reason we want healthy ecosystems is so they can sustain human life in the long term.

Personally I don't care if I ever see the reef, the Amazon or any other ecosystem. I'm pretty much interested in sustainable ecosystems to ensure human welfare.

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by yongjik »

minimalist wrote: post #21
astockwell wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vote.

This is a weak, low-effort responce. There is only so much that can be done by governmental mandate. People have become used to unsustainable lifestyles and it takes lifestyle changes at the individual level to shape our broader impact.

Ozone hole was fixed with regulation. Leaded gasoline was banned by regulation. Obviously government alone is not enough, but it can make a large step in the right direction.

Individual action is also important, but we will never solve the climate problem by ignoring what governments can/should do.

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by gkop »

jeffbee wrote: post #70
ghiculescu wrote: post #52

I grew up in Queensland. During school in the late 90s, we were taught the same thing, except the reef was meant to already be gone by today. When I visited a few years ago, it was stunning. Hopefully this report won’t come true either, but it is hard to believe anyone predicting what Australia will be like in 2100. In any case, particularly on a forum like this, we should argue about what technological ideas we can…

You would be “stunned” by 1% of the Great Barrier Reef and wouldn’t notice the missing 99%. This bias is the central topic of the book “The Once and Future World”.

Would you clarify your point? I think you may be saying that the reef could already have been dead to a large extent at the time of parent commenter’s visit, but it’s not clear...

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by Tiktaalik »

dragonwriter wrote: post #37
labster wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should I vote for the party that thinks bottle recycling will save the world, or the party who thinks recycling is a socialist tax sham sent to oppress us? Those are my two choices.

> Should I vote for the party that thinks bottle recycling will save the world, or the party who thinks recycling is a socialist tax sham sent to oppress us? Those are my two choices. Where? Because I don’t know of a major party anywhere in the world that matches the first description.

This is most 'progressive' parties in first world countries.

Environmentalism, but only so long as it doesn't actually challenge the status quo of our society.

You have the Liberal Party of Canada, which brought in a carbon tax, great, but in order to justify to the public their expansion of oil sands export development. The notion that we would stop pumping oil out of the ground and burning it is unthinkable.

The even more progressive BC NDP also committed to exporting liquified natural gas to be burned in other countries, justifying it with promises of carbon tax increases.

Parties that were considering our climate crisis with due gravity would be doing everything they could to lower CO2 emissions, not taking one step forward, and one step back, and fiddling around the edges.

Re: Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds

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Post by autoconfig »

ghiculescu wrote: post #52

I grew up in Queensland. During school in the late 90s, we were taught the same thing, except the reef was meant to already be gone by today. When I visited a few years ago, it was stunning. Hopefully this report won’t come true either, but it is hard to believe anyone predicting what Australia will be like in 2100. In any case, particularly on a forum like this, we should argue about what technological ideas we can…

They weren't too far off. According to this BBC article _half_ of the reef is gone since 1995: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54533971
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