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The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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May I respectfully suggest that those who do not fulfill the minimum wetware requirements to run Linux successfully should stick to an operating system that is consistent with their cranial capacity.

Ubuntu was supposed to be the linux distribution that was easy for the everyday user. Now they're suffering from GNOME politics and Canonical treating their users as beta testers (but Unity works great for (most) people with Intel laptops).

Don't get me wrong - Ubuntu has made great strides in usability, but it's not that linux is harder, it's that people who are already used to Windows will find it much "easier" because the mental shortcuts are already there, compared to Linux where they need to think about something as simple as launching a program. Combine that with the fact that Linux does break on occasion (mostly with regards to distro upgrades) and probably requires the command line to fix it and you get frustration on the user's part compared to Windows.

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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Dislacimer: I've been involved in the KDE community in the past few years. However, im not a core developer or a decision maker and I just make very side contributions. What follows are my thoughts and obviously not KDE's. Main issues behind Linux on desktop: 1) Motivation. Volunteers are doing an incredible job. Truly amazing. Outstanding. No word describes it. However, how much can you expect from them? Most linux-…

My issue is that the Linux applications I use have good Windows ports, and it's hard to find motivation to improve an OS I don't use. There are even some Windows applications I use that don't have a Linux port. The usual response is "run it in WINE," but then I ask "why?" It already works!

Linux is already a fine server OS and ecosystem. I think the "Linux desktop" has become less relevant with the rise of smartphones and tablets. Maybe it's time to start talking about which year will be the year of the Linux workstation. :)

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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post #27

May I respectfully suggest that those who do not fulfill the minimum wetware requirements to run Linux successfully should stick to an operating system that is consistent with their cranial capacity.

May I respectfully suggest that many of those who fulfil the minimum wetware requirements would rather put that cranial capacity to other uses instead of wrestling with driver problems and Skype crashes? For some, those things are a hobby, and much respect to you if so; that does not however make the rest of us stupid.

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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I feel like I've read over 20 of these articles lately. I have used linux on the desktop in some form or another since 1998. It works, trust me. I find it strange that the author says they should have gone back to FreeBSD. In terms of "desktop" experience, both of these operating systems are somewhat similar. I understand his complaints about the driver situation, but, really, this just means that you need to do some…

For different values of "works".

I've recently started using a Linux desktop again, in a very well supported corporate environment. Even with very professional people supporting my exact configuration (so hardware support is not much of an issue), it's still barely usable for me. Many major applications have significant usability problems, sound support is extremely spotty, window management on the desktop has absurd bugs (focus stealing apps not showing up in alt-tab order), and so on.

It's not that it strictly doesn't work, it's just death by a thousand papercuts, and my general unwillingness to put up with that. I'm currently back to using a Mac laptop to run my desktop environment, ssh-ing into the Linux desktop to run essential programs (exported through X, which brings a nice flavor of ugly to my desktop...).

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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Can we please stop this? When you don't like Linux on your desktop, don't use it. It's that easy.

The thing is, these complaints usually come from people who WANT linux to succeed on the desktop. I'm certainly one of those people - one of those poor unfortunate souls doing RoR development on a PC.

Windows isn't a great option for me because the development ecosystem around Ruby on Windows is still fairly immature. Linux would be a perfect solution, if I could get more than a hour of battery life out of my laptop, my touchpad worked even remotely as well as it does in Windows, and selecting the wrong update didn't completely trash my system.

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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I think this is why so many developers have switched to Macs. Development on Windows sucks (in my opinion, of course, unless you're making Windows applications), and with OS X you get the best of both worlds: the power and flexibility of BSD, along with great desktop applications and a nice day-to-day user experience that "just works".

Do I really want to worry about what sound driver I'm using, when I have clients waiting? Not so much.

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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post #27

May I respectfully suggest that those who do not fulfill the minimum wetware requirements to run Linux successfully should stick to an operating system that is consistent with their cranial capacity.

There's nothing respectful about calling people who don't want to fiddle with Linux idiots. You can't say "may I respectfully suggest" and go on to insult people. It doesn't work that way.

Re: The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktop, Part II

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Can we please stop this? When you don't like Linux on your desktop, don't use it. It's that easy.

It's a little bit hypocritical. But can we stop _this_. If you don't want to read articles about distaste of desktop linux. Don't click the link and/or downvote.
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